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So, picked up my Overland Eco Diesel on Sat May 9.
Will post driving impressions and general observations over the next few weeks.

Thrilled with my color choice both inside and out. Max steel is an interesting color in that it changes in different lighting. Blue, gray, sometimes looks almost black.

Dealer did a decent job cleaning her up before pick up and filled full of fuel.
I note a bit of glue residue on windshield from window stickers, but should clean up with a bit of alcohol base cleaner and maybe a razor scraper. As previously said in another thread, my unit came with chrome rail steps, which I personally don't care for so dealer removed at my request. The rock rails I ordered turned out to be wrong as they ordered wrong sku # and fit a JKU Wrangler, so, correct ones are re:eek:rdered and should be here in a day or two. The others have already been sold off. My chrome steps are in my storage barn and will be posted for sale on kijiji in a few days by me. Mopar hood deflector and splash guards look great! I installed Weathertec window deflectors on driver and passenger fronts so far...still have rears to do.

I note we have a squeek coming from passenger side somewhere..possibly the headliner issue others have had. I will trouble shoot over the next couple of weeks, or as a last resort let dealer fix.

Driving impressions thus far are favourable. I do notice the turbo lag but really not a big issue. I may try the fix that has been suggested by disabling hill descent control. Power is great and very smooth; ride is comfy and a huge diff coming from a Wrangler LOL. Still kinda playing with U-connect and various options. Tried out heated seats and steering wheel...both nice features along with dual climate controls. Headlifghts are also quite bright and a huge improvement over previous vehicle.

Mileage is wow! 503 km thus far and used 3/8 of a tank. My wrangler got like 15 - 18 mpg so this is a real treat. I have 2 more out of town trips this week yet, so I'll be somewhere around 1500 k this time next week. I will manually track mileage in my excel spreadsheet as I have found computers in cars not to be totally accurate.

Generally very happy with purchase, and looking forward to learning more about the various features it has. Planning first wax job next week end. Goodyear Duratracs will be a fall addition.
 
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A few quick pics.
 

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Weathertecs fit great! Mind you I sliced up my finger as I installed and then decided to re seat
So in the process of removing got my finger caught and edge cut me...ouch! Think of a paper cut only thicker.
Dash I guess is supposed to be the ...well lets call it Denim blue like the seats, but it looks darker to me. Mind you I do seem to struggle to distinguish between dark blue and black.
Mileage continues to amaze me...850 km's as of today and still 1/4 tank remains.
So lets call it 1100 - 1150 km per tank. Plan to top up tomorrow then calculate actual fuel mileage.
Also got to experience front collision avoidance system today. 2x actually. So I can verify it does work.Neither instance would have resulted in crash but car does respond quicker than me apparently. The first one was a deal where there was a car on the highway in front of me..slowing to make a left turn. Rather than use brakes, I choose to ease up on throttle and kinda decide if they're gonna be gone when I get there, and if need be, then apply brake. Car decided I was too slow to decide so warning beeper goes off..red flashing on dash and brakes applied. 2nd time car 2 ahead of me decides to make a last minute stop / turn..causing the guy directly in front to make a sudden stop..so my car jumps on brake same time as me. So definitely a safety feature in this one.
 
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+1 on the Weathertech deflectors. They fit front and rear perfect and don't flare out as much as Mopars and others. Love that Maxsteel, Thunder. Enjoy!
 
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The turbo does seem to have a SLIGHT hesitation...mostly I notice from a standing stop.
Really its not bad at all and t for me it is definitely not a major issue. Perhaps I notice because my other 2 cars are more Sport tuned and are very quick off the line. But I would not trade the ride comfort of the Jeep for either of those. Honestly almost every other vehicle I've ridden in now seems likes a lumberwagon in comparison!
Someone in another post had suggested to go into the controls in U-connect and disable hill descent may reduce turbo lag. I may experiment with that.
Power with the diesel is great and no problem climbing some rather steep hills in our town. I'm sure the 8 speed doesn't hurt either!
 
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thunderbolt, nice rig. I too want to know the HDC & turbo lag answer. My gas flap wasn't aligned well.it's a complete unit, flap arm and inner casing. Dealership said it's not like they could bend the arm to fix the alignment. After a couple of visits and discussions (visits for other reasons also, not just this) they replaced the whole unit. It's aligned better but still not perfect. Hope yours is perfect.


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2014 JGC CRD 3.0L Overland, white/tan, Quadra-Trac II, Quadra-Lift, 265/50 Forteras on 20X8s
► 2014-03-22 @ 10 miles
► 2014-12-20 @ 10,000 miles
► 2015-01-28 @ 11,295 miles: P20EE finally fixed
 
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Also, before I bought the JGC I rented some Wranglers. I found the ride too harsh, and the JGC nice and comfortable. Maybe for me & SWMBO it's an age thing, we are middle aged.

Enjoy your new JGC CRD!


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► 2014-03-22 @ 10 miles
► 2014-12-20 @ 10,000 miles
► 2015-01-28 @ 11,295 miles: P20EE finally fixed
 
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Well I guess I'll call myself middle aged too...birthday 60 end of this year. Not sure how the hell that happened....seems to me I was like 30 something not so very long ago LOL
Fuel door seems ok...I'll be doing first major wash / shine next week end ( no time till then) so that is when I will go over to look for any flaws or imperfections. Beyond the minor rattle on passenger side, nothing obvious out of the norm thus far.
 
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Quick update....still waiting on dealer to get my rockrails. Really want to avoid parking lot dings is main reason for this..plus I like the rugged look.
Filled her up today...1.096 / ltr at Pioneer fuel. No major issue with pumps as to sticky / dirty etc.
Input my numbers into spreadsheet, so first round = ( drum roll please.......) 32.79 mpg...VERY pleased with that...and literally double the Wrangler economy. Mind you most of that was highway but if you consider the car is less than a week in service, I think we can expect some numbers as good as or better than advertised, and that is impressive. Also I was not really trying to achieve big numbers but rather driving as I normally would with respect to speed or acceleration habits. So if I was striving for mileage alone...using cruise at a set speed I'm sure we could improve on this.
And as the car gets "broken in" should play into it too.
 
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thunderbolt, I don't think the rock rails will help for parking lot dings, but they will give you a more rugged look. I haven't scraped yet. I need to install some on mine for the protection. I have scraped the skid plates a few times.

Enjoy the mileage, and it will improve as the engine breaks in. I've posted these elsewhere here - with reasonable driving you can expect:

>> 25 mpg @ 85 mph (9.80 L/100km, 10.20 km/L @ 136.8 kph)
>> 28 mpg @ 75 mph (8.40 L/100km, 11.90 km/L @ 120.7 kph)
>> 34 mpg @ 65 mph (6.92 L/100km, 14.45 km/L @ 104.6 kph)
>> 45 mpg @ 55 mph (5.23 L/100km, 19.13 km/L @ 88.5 kph)

(Used for the metric conversions: Convert Fuel consumption, Miles per gallon)

I got those numbers at near sea level on mostly flat highways in very little wind, transmission locked in 8th, cruise control on (also, the A/C was on), stock suspension and 265/50-20 Goodyear Fortera tires at 38PSI. I recently duplicated and verified these values (posted here: http://www.jeepgarage.org/f222/eco-diesel-mileage-78917-4.html#post1159631).

Enjoy!
 
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thunderbolt, are those imperial gallons? my best tank was something like 740 miles with a little over a gallon left. ended up being 30.1 mpg (us gallons)

good to hear about the window deflectors, I plan on ordering a set as well.

edit: for what its worth, I noticed zero difference in turbo lag when disabling HSA...
 
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Yes for us in Canada we calculate in imperial gallons.
And for conversion sake 1 gal = 4.54 ltrs / 1 mile =1.6 kms
I still don't have my rear deflectors on yet...been busy and its been raining here a lot
 
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Update Sat May 16.
TROUBLE in paradise!!!
Car is now 1 week in my possession. 1089 km on the clock. Out of town making some wedding
arrangements with my son and fiance. Cruising on the expressway and car suddenly starts sending error messages on the dash...."service shifter, low tire pressure" ...bunch of other lights. Car goes into "limp mode" so we're going like 30 mph tops ... trying to make it to an exit to get off expressway.
Car shuts down completely and we're coasting. Got as far as the end of "merge lane" ...pull over... car says " shut down to engage park". So now we're sitting ducks. Lots of long week end traffic whizzing by...turn on 4 way flashers so we don't get slammed into. Call Chrysler Roadside Assist.
About 40 minutes with her trying to get wrecker arranged and establish where exactly we are located as she is obviously not familiar with our locale. No sooner did we hang up from the call, and the car went totally dead...no power so now flashers are off. We climb out as car is getting warm. Cops come by and park behind us so at least we won't get crashed into. About a 40 minute wait and wrecker does come along. We can't get any response from car so we can' t get into neutral. We decide to mount on dolleys but wrecker needs assist so he calls in another guy. Eventually we get rigged up and my son and I ride with wrecker to dealer.
We had called ahead to dealer to discuss and see if we could arrange a loaner. No such luck plus dealer was closing at 2 pm (it was about 1:45 at the time)
He said there was a car rental place right next door..did he have phone info?...no. So while we're waiting for wrecker we start calling around car rentals. Hoilday week end here and everyone we called
( except one) is closed. Really??? Geeesh. Anyway we find one guy but no car available till next morning. Which is ok as we were staying over anyway.
So we haul car to dealer....drop in their lot. Car is dead so can't get my window up which had been down all along. So we lock up what we can in glovebox and drop key in dropbox.
So current state is
- car is at an out of town dealer till Tuesday at least...dead in the water and driver side window open.
- I am driving a Toyota Corolla rental ...rental guy is located about 10 miles from the dealer lot.
- upside may be that I do often work in this city and was already planning to be in town Tuesday anyway.
- how long will it take dealer to fix?
- not my dealer so will these guys be any good ? At least I have a comfort zone with my local guys here in town.
Tuesday morning will be a phone call to out of town dealer to see what and when they can look at car.
 

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Apparently dealer is open at 7:30 so I will stop in to disuss live on my way into head office where I have been working a couple days a week of late.
Yeah it does seem to me to be some sort of electrical glitch as there were various codes coming up.
I am hoping dealer can troubleshoot and resolve Tues so I can return rental and bring car back home.
I'll post Tues nite results.
It will also be interesting to see if Chrysler steps up to cover my rental cost.
My home town dealer would most likely have gotten me a loaner at least.
Been a customer there for about 15 years now.
 
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Stopped into out of town dealer on my way into head office this morning. Discussed issue.
Called at 1 pm for update...hadn't been looked at yet....called again @ 4pm...car in shop but not fixed.
Drove home... (2 hours from where car is stranded)
Plan to check status tomorrow after lunch....
I did speak with my local dealer and they are taking an active interest.
Did some checking here on similar issue and found a couple of possible solutions I will
share with dealer if they can't sort out on their own.
I am still fairly sure this is an electrical issue that can be resolved.
Sure hope so...love the car outside this issue.

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Thanks for thinking of me.
Nope, we're still in the rental. We have a case open with FCA.
Dealer is in contact with Tech support but no fix so far. BCM was replaced Monday and
that didn't do it. I think there's a short somewhere.
Customer Care tell me they will cover rental cost so no worries there.
Just not sure how long they'll stretch this out. I'm thinking about this time next week
I'll start pushing them to build me another one. Cause truthfully I'm not thinking they're gonna figure this out.
 
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Not to sound like a bear but getting a new one out of chrysler is next to impossible. (Speaking from experience) your dealer is the only interface pretty much as chrysler canada could not give a sh@t less about you. If the dealer is willing to take the loss you're good otherwise enjoy the ride when it's fixed.

Chrysler Canada is an entirely different company from US counterpart and not so big on customer service.

Anything is possible but keep up the pressure....



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Update Wed May 27...
Called dealer today for update. Tells, me car is ready to go!
Apparently there is a connector goes into the side of the transmission.
Seems it was not fully engaged and over the week I drove it, somehow worked its way
loose. Crazy stuff! I actually did read about this happened to another JGC in Ozzyland.
So back to the city tomorrow to return rental and get "Max" back.
Last stage will be to get reimbursement from FCA for rental.
Dealer will be filing a log with FCA on this so it can be an area to check for any similar issues that other owners may experience. Likely it should be a part of the PDI seeing as it came from production like this with loose connectors.
Now I can move ahead and get my Rockrails installed that have been been sitting at my local dealer for a week now.
 
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Ooops....double post
 
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Update Thurs. May 28
So dealer called me this morning. Apparently service mgr took my rig home last night to do test run and ensure all ok. On his way into the shop this morning it failed and went into limp mode again. Just glad it happened before they gave it back to me. Kudos to the service mgr for the testing to make sure all was good....or not.
Current diagnosis...needs new electronic shift control module. I'm wondering if the bad connector has actually caused this issue. With a loose connector, I would imagine there could possibly be some "arcing" which would not be a good thing with electronic circuit boards.
Anyway we now have another day..maybe 2 or 3 ... wait time.
Damnnnn.
 
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Update Fri May 29
So a quick check in with servicing dealer on Fri morning, I learn the module we need shows on
b/order. For how long? Dunno but should hear more on this on Mon. Dealer "flagged" the first request as "vehicle off road" meaning out of service so it should get priority status when part becomes available. If you're keeping score, I had the car 7 days and its been in the shop now for 14.
 
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