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Have a business trip planned for next week, sent the GC into the dealership for that time, have a small list of issues, blower fan is loud, flash updates etc.

1. LOF Oil Change
2. Change rear gear oil
3. Change engine air filter
4. Change Fuel Filters
5. Road Force balance wheels/ tire rotation
6. Wheel alignment check
7. Interior/Exterior detail and hand wax
8. Warranty repair bitch list

For the above, had quotes from 3 dealerships, all were around $1000.00 ; one dealership was cheaper but subbed out the detail for an expensive price.

Replace fuel filters alone was $280.00

Its more maintenance then most will do, but i'd say is the right maintenance that will make sure tire noise is minimized and tire life is maximized.

Think i'll replace the brake fluid myself when it gets nicer out. I thought few on here would like to see what a maintenance cost could be, also the additional cost of fuel filter replacement. Last vehicle I had (Colorado) didn't have a serviceable fuel filter, was apart of the fuel bucket in the tank, lower cost of maintenance.

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I don't know what year Grand Cherokee Diesel you have, but this video shows the dual fuel filter change out on a 2014 3.0 Diesel Grand Cherokee. He mentioned the filters themselves run around $50.00 each. So for the 2 required you're looking at around $100.00 for both. I'll bet if you shop around on line you can find them for less than that. But even at $100.00 for both, that means they clipped you $180.00 for labor. That seems way out of line considering it doesn't look like a very difficult job that couldn't take more than a few minutes. Especially for a professional who is familiar with the vehicle.

This is what is scaring me on the Diesel option. The extremely high maintenance costs. If you can perform your own oil and filter changes, you can save a lot of money. On the 3.0 Eco Diesel on the Grand Cherokee, these basic maintenance procedures seem simple enough to accomplish on your own. I understand if you're not comfortable doing this type of thing, I just thought I would point out that it doesn't seem like much in order to save a lot of money over the life of the vehicle.

It was mentioned somewhere on this forum that a dealer quoted 3 hours for a oil and filter change on the Eco Diesel. I think for a lot of this stuff, what their charging is borderline rip off. With people paying upward of over $200.00+ for a simple oil change, and most of these dealers charging a very high dollar an hour amount for labor, they are "milking it" a little....... Or in some cases, a lot.

Now I'll admit I'm 62 years old, and I haven't bought a new car in many years. I know the technology has increased immensely on these vehicles, and with it costs. However with that said, I'm basically cheap, and will do anything I possibly can to keep maintenance costs down. The more I do, the more money I'll have for other things. At least that's the way this cheap, old retired guy see's it.
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Have a business trip planned for next week, sent the GC into the dealership for that time, have a small list of issues, blower fan is loud, flash updates etc.

1. LOF Oil Change
2. Change rear gear oil
3. Change engine air filter
4. Change Fuel Filters
5. Road Force balance wheels/ tire rotation
6. Wheel alignment check
7. Interior/Exterior detail and hand wax
8. Warranty repair bitch list

For the above, had quotes from 3 dealerships, all were around $1000.00 ; one dealership was cheaper but subbed out the detail for an expensive price.

Replace fuel filters alone was $280.00

Its more maintenance then most will do, but i'd say is the right maintenance that will make sure tire noise is minimized and tire life is maximized.

Think i'll replace the brake fluid myself when it gets nicer out. I thought few on here would like to see what a maintenance cost could be, also the additional cost of fuel filter replacement. Last vehicle I had (Colorado) didn't have a serviceable fuel filter, was apart of the fuel bucket in the tank, lower cost of maintenance.

question are you doing anything extreme or submerging wheels or anything that would make you want to do this one so early "2. Change rear gear oil"?
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I don't know what year Grand Cherokee Diesel you have, but this video shows the dual fuel filter change out on a 2014 3.0 Diesel Grand Cherokee. He mentioned the filters themselves run around $50.00 each. So for the 2 required you're looking at around $100.00 for both. I'll bet if you shop around on line you can find them for less than that. But even at $100.00 for both, that means they clipped you $180.00 for labor. That seems way out of line considering it doesn't look like a very difficult job that couldn't take more than a few minutes. Especially for a professional who is familiar with the vehicle.

This is what is scaring me on the Diesel option. The extremely high maintenance costs. If you can perform your own oil and filter changes, you can save a lot of money. On the 3.0 Eco Diesel on the Grand Cherokee, these basic maintenance procedures seem simple enough to accomplish on your own. I understand if you're not comfortable doing this type of thing, I just thought I would point out that it doesn't seem like much in order to save a lot of money over the life of the vehicle.

It was mentioned somewhere on this forum that a dealer quoted 3 hours for a oil and filter change on the Eco Diesel. I think for a lot of this stuff, what their charging is borderline rip off. With people paying upward of over $200.00+ for a simple oil change, and most of these dealers charging a very high dollar an hour amount for labor, they are "milking it" a little....... Or in some cases, a lot.

Now I'll admit I'm 62 years old, and I haven't bought a new car in many years. I know the technology has increased immensely on these vehicles, and with it costs. However with that said, I'm basically cheap, and will do anything I possibly can to keep maintenance costs down. The more I do, the more money I'll have for other things. At least that's the way this cheap, old retired guy see's it.
My jaw dropped after seeing those old filters in the video. Looks like the owner (not the tech trying to rectify the situation) put DEF in the fuel tank.. Hope the owner doesn't come back to complain about the GC being a piece of junk.
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wow that fuel filter change looks simple to charge 280.......
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I was wondering on the 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.0 Diesel, how does the engine cover come off? It appears it must be removed in order to change the oil filter. It doesn't have a access port the way the Penstar V-6 gas engine does. And I don't see any screws or fasteners.

These things are all plastic. And much like door panels, if you don't know the correct procedure for removing them, it's very easy to start breaking tabs off, ect. Does anyone have a fool proof method they could share?
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Does anyone have a fool proof method they could share?
Just pull it up. It pops off. Once the first tab/post pops you will realize there is nothing to fear. In fact, I'm trying to think of a way it could be broken. Pouring liquid nitrogen on it and hitting it with a hammer comes to mind, and so does a reciprocating saw, but other than that...

Seriously, having to remove the intake to change the oil is far more of a pain.
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Seriously, having to remove the intake to change the oil is far more of a pain.
Do you mean the air intake? Please elaborate.
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I don't know what year Grand Cherokee Diesel you have, but this video shows the dual fuel filter change out on a 2014 3.0 Diesel Grand Cherokee.

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billt, what is the YouTube subscription for that guy? What do I search on to find him?

Also, the new filters he shows are dry, when the entire fuel system is dry. I imagine the DIY process being wetter and messier, for us if we don't drain the fuel system first.

Also, the mechanic does not mention what to use to lube the filter threads with. But I imagine that info shouldn't be too hard to find.
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billt, what is the YouTube subscription for that guy? What do I search on to find him?
Just click on "You Tube" at the bottom of the video, and it will take you to You Tube to watch the video. Then just click on "Subscribe" to get his channel. He goes by "MotorCity Mechanic"

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Also, the new filters he shows are dry, when the entire fuel system is dry. I imagine the DIY process being wetter and messier, for us if we don't drain the fuel system first.
That is what the yellow Phillips Head screw is for. You remove it first and place a receptacle under it, that will allow all of the fuel in the filter chambers to drain out. Along with any water in the system. Then when you unscrew the filter housings themselves, very little fuel should leak out. He had already done that before he started filming.

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Also, the mechanic does not mention what to use to lube the filter threads with. But I imagine that info shouldn't be too hard to find.
I would imagine a bit of Diesel fuel could be used, or else a light grease. Just enough to wet the O-Rings and threads after wiping everything clean and dry.
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question are you doing anything extreme or submerging wheels or anything that would make you want to do this one so early "2. Change rear gear oil"?

Nope, but do you think gear oil lasts forever? I'd rather change gear oil before it's ever in the window of needing to be changed. I've seen bad gear oil, I've seen noisy pinion gears. I've seen in plenty of service manuals recommending 30k interval gear oil change.


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