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Re: Anybody know if a '16 shifter will fit a '14?

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I agree with you, fun2drive. Even after 2.5 years of ownership, this shifter is finicky in ways a normal shifter never is. I have never had to "fight" with a shifter on any other vehicle; conversely, quickly throwing the transmission from D to R is quite difficult on this Jeep, with the gear often ending up as N or P. Also, sometimes the shifter starkly refuses to shift into P no matter how long it is pressed forward and successful shifting into P requires releasing the shifter and trying again. My guess is that this aspect is related to the rollaways some drivers have experienced.

This shifter paradigm also lacks the benefit of muscle memory, as you noted. The tasks I described as problematic with this shifter are simpler with a normal shifter thanks to the engagement of the cerebellum/proprioception.

Simply put: I experience zero benefit from this idiosyncratic shifter, but I do experience drawbacks. The 2016 redesign appears to be a significant improvement.

At the risk of turning this discussion into the same "pi**ing contest" the previous one was, all I can say is........


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Old 04-01-2016, 02:41 PM
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Re: Anybody know if a '16 shifter will fit a '14?

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Precisely. This is the "fighting" scenario I referred to. In certain circumstances the shifter will move forward but refuse to shift into P until it is released and pushed again.

I've had the scenario you describe happen to me when I was in a serious rush. I was additionally protected because I absolutely always use the parking brake.
Ditto. Exactly what happened to me a couple days ago. Parking brake saved my rear.

I have to manually fold the passenger mirror when entering/exiting the garage and I leave it running when doing this. It's easy to miss park and get reverse in this situation. I always hit the parking brake first and then shift to park, though, so I've never had a rollaway down our steep driveway.

I do like the overall feel and function of the shifter on my '15, especially the easy and frequently used bump to sport mode. A button on the dash wouldn't be as safe or convenient. I bump it into sport mode just prior to merging or passing on the highway to tighten up the shift points and throttle response. It's also good for getting aero mode sooner when accelerating up to highway speeds.
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A button on the dash wouldn't be as safe or convenient.
Concur. I liked how my old Camry handled the overdrive shift mode: it was a small button on the side of the head of the shifter, positioned right where the thumb could easily access it.
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Re: Anybody know if a '16 shifter will fit a '14?

With this ZF 8 speed being of German design, I assume it might be used in BMW's and Mercedes, etc.


If so, does anyone know what type of shifter they use? Same as the JGC or something better designed.


This thing sure could be improved.
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Re: Anybody know if a '16 shifter will fit a '14?

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With this ZF 8 speed being of German design, I assume it might be used in BMW's and Mercedes, etc.


If so, does anyone know what type of shifter they use? Same as the JGC or something better designed.


This thing sure could be improved.
My 5 series with the same transmission had a more complicated shifter that was more akin to a space joystick. I got used to it but it was less intuitive than the Chrysler product. Park is a separate button (on the top) so there was never any risk of trying to get to 'P' but only making it to 'R' like ours has. This is out of a 7 series but same deal.

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Re: Anybody know if a '16 shifter will fit a '14?

I have a '14 Overland with 30k miles. I did a three point turn yesterday and was glad a semi wasn't coming down the road towards me. Stupid shifter. Can't imagine coming down Black Bear Pass in Telluride using this shifter. Yaaaa-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo… Love the vehicle though.
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Re: Anybody know if a '16 shifter will fit a '14?

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My 5 series with the same transmission had a more complicated shifter that was more akin to a space joystick. I got used to it but it was less intuitive than the Chrysler product. Park is a separate button (on the top) so there was never any risk of trying to get to 'P' but only making it to 'R' like ours has. This is out of a 7 series but same deal.

The bmw shifter is even worse than the GC. I had one as a loaner and at a stop light while trying to figure out how to change the radio I rested my hand on the shifter and accidentally put the car in park. I only realized when the light turned and I hit the gas. Dumb, dumb, dumb, design. I refuse to buy BMW because of their horrendous ergonomics (including idrive)-the Jeep is far better even with its shifter.
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I have to manually fold the passenger mirror when entering/exiting the garage and I leave it running when doing this.
Have they removed the power fold Mirror button from the 2015's

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Have they removed the power fold Mirror button from the 2015's

It's not an available option on the 2015 Limited.
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Re: Anybody know if a '16 shifter will fit a '14?

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It's not an available option on the 2015 Limited.
That's stupid, it's std on my 14 Laredo
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Re: Anybody know if a '16 shifter will fit a '14?

I have power fold mirrors on 2015 Overland
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That's stupid, it's std on my 14 Laredo
Interesting. 2014 US specs list power folding mirrors only available on Overland and Summit models.

And they're not listed as part of the Laredo E package either.
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