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Can't order 2017 Ecodiesel Overland

We finally decided on a GC ED for replace the wife's aging Libby. Built an overland online just like she wanted. (Didn't want summit b/o air suspension). I handed the sales lady the build sheet. She can't find the code in the Jeep computer to build the ED. Apparently, she couldn't find any ED. I'm sure it exist. Anybody run into this or know the magic computer code to tell them.

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Re: Can't order 2017 Ecodiesel Overland

The engine code on the build sheet should be "EXF". Honestly, you would be better served to find a different "sales lady", or/and a different dealer. I would bet Euros that the reason she couldn't "find it" is because she would rather sell you something from inventory(and something they are paying juice on) than order you a new 2017. The majority of a dealerships sales force are clueless incompetents that are just chasing the next sale.
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Re: Can't order 2017 Ecodiesel Overland

Diesel engines have been put back to "Late Availability", no ETA as to when ordering will re-open. "EXF" has been removed from the ordering system which is why the sales lady couldn't find it.
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Re: Can't order 2017 Ecodiesel Overland

May have something to do with the Ecodiesel having late availability according to this forum's insider info (thank you Milous). I assume the delay is related to the fact that the 2017 JGC Ecodiesel is set to receive the new second generation 8HP transmission

"• 3.0L CRD engine continues (240 hp @ 3,600 rpm 420 lb-ft of torque @ 1,800 rpm) (late availability)"

See: 2017 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

"New: 2nd generation 8HP75 transmission (CRD models only)"

See: Jeep Grand Cherokee WK2 - 2017 Grand Cherokee pricing and options

Might be worth the wait. Predicted increase in fuel economy is slated at 3%

See: Green Car Congress: ZF showcasing second-generation 8HP 8-speed transmission at NAIAS; additional 3% boost in fuel savings
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Re: Can't order 2017 Ecodiesel Overland

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Diesel engines have been put back to "Late Availability", no ETA as to when ordering will re-open. "EXF" has been removed from the ordering system which is why the sales lady couldn't find it.
Ooops, Milous beat me too it. I knew I should have posted faster :-) Thanks for confirming.
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Re: Can't order 2017 Ecodiesel Overland

Thanks guys. That answers the question. I'm not sure I like the idea of a "new-ish" transmission. I hate to be the beta tester for the OEM. Better efficiency is good but it's gotta work.
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Re: Can't order 2017 Ecodiesel Overland

I've have also been trying to order a CRD. The latest availability delay may also be due to the engine failure remediation that's taking place. As far as the 2nd gen trans, the hardware has been used by BMW for a couple of years. I'm not particularly worried about it being new to Jeep. They'll get their own induced software bugs out eventually.


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Re: Can't order 2017 Ecodiesel Overland

There is a engine failure remediation taking place? For the camshaft gear issue?
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There is a engine failure remediation taking place? For the camshaft gear issue?
Not trying to be a jerk, but the whole "engine failure" thing seems to be like a buzz word or something. The number of Ecodiesels (Jeep & RAM) has been under 1%. Like astronomically low. I think it's disingenuous to make it seem bigger than it actually is.
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Re: Can't order 2017 Ecodiesel Overland

Yep, I am working under the same assumptions - i.e. isolated incidents. I am questioning clarkaflare's info regarding "...engine failure remediation that's taking place."
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Re: Can't order 2017 Ecodiesel Overland

ZF transmission is NOT new just updated. ZF makes the best transmissions in the world so
I would have little to worry about.


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Re: Can't order 2017 Ecodiesel Overland

Looks like the OP said he wanted to build an Overland instead of a Summit because of the air suspension. Don't all of the Overland's have Quadralift?
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