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Old 05-16-2015, 12:34 PM
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Re: Check your air filter

Waiting for aFe to release their Momentum series CAI for Jeep Eco Diesel with the pro7 filter
They have the Momentum CAI for the Ram ED
Not expecting any performance gains but will be adding other mods that may benefit from enhanced CAI

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Just checked my air filter on my 2015 GC Eco. w/ 275 miles.

Cracked around all four sides, not yet penetrated however. I'm going to throw a Fram in since it's all I can find locally in stock and then I'll order something better for the next replacement.

Not good. Makes me wonder about the rest of the OEM parts..........
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Re: Check your air filter

Just replaced mine. Only 50 miles on my jeep. Just picked it up Friday. Cracked but not penetrated.
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Old 05-17-2015, 12:02 AM
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Re: Check your air filter

Mine had maybe 100miles on mine before I changed it to a drop-in aFe. Was messing around with the original (threw it in a drawer) - and looked closer. Yup, cracked along the orange rubber seal. Prob not enough to let in grit, but well on its way to eventually sending some nice rubber chunks into the turbo. I think at this point we can all agree that Jeep went with a terrible supplier for OEM air filters.
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A better built filter, and a larger filter would have helped if FCA would have supplied that from the get go.
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Old 05-17-2015, 04:55 AM
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Re: Check your air filter

Thanks guys for the heads up regards this issue.

Just had the GC Laredo serviced (first 2500km) about 150km ago and sure as shit the filter is cracked along 2 sides with extensive cracking on at least one corner.

Now I'm no mechanic although I've spent the better part of 20 years operating earthmoving equipment and I know the importance of "clean air" for diesels.

It appears to me as though the filter actually sits on the 4 edges and when enough "load" (air flow inwards) is extered on the filter it will depress on the 4 raised edges putting undue pressure on the soft outer ridge of rubber - surely this is a design fault/flaw.

Has anybody in Australia used the Ryco filter and are there any other recommended off the shelf after market filters (yes Futuresystem i saw your post re: Wesfill).

Thanks for any feed back guys.
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Re: Check your air filter

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It appears to me as though the filter actually sits on the 4 edges and when enough "load" (air flow inwards) is extered on the filter it will depress on the 4 raised edges putting undue pressure on the soft outer ridge of rubber - surely this is a design fault/flaw.
That is possible, but people have reported the air filter being damaged while taking delivery of a brand new vehicle - with like 5 miles on the clock. There was also speculation that the vibrations inherent with the diesel rattle shook the filter too much - but again this shouldn't show up after the vehicle has lots of time on the road. Honestly the best explanation is a manufacturing flaw in the filter; I think the rubber was improperly formed which made it too brittle. And if you compare it to the aFe one, you'll see the rubber on the aFe is much more pliable, and it extends down the sides of the filter material. That makes a much tighter fit and the rubber supports the stress of the filter during shaking and distortion from airflow.
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Re: Check your air filter

How many miles and time do those with aftermarket filters have on those filters?

I'm wondering if the air box is the part with the design flaw therefore creating stress on *any* filter that goes in there causing it to fail.......
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Re: Check your air filter

It's not really ruber, it's more like a ruber coated foam
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Re: Check your air filter

Don't know if anyone has had *any* problems with aftermarket ones. I think the extended rubber down the sides makes the filter that much structurally stronger, not to mention the brittle vs. pliable issue. For comparison:

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Old 05-18-2015, 01:58 AM
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Re: Check your air filter

The factory filter developed holes by 200 miles. I've had the aFe in there for 3500 miles or so and no holes, so I don't think the filter box is to blame.

I had some very fine dust make it past the aFe, but that's because I had the "dry" version and drove in lots of fine dust (gravel roads). According to aFe, I should have been running the oiled version for such a dusty environment. They sent me an oiled version (Pro Guard 7) to see how it compares in the same conditions. I won't be back on dusty roads again until next month, so I'll find out then how much of a difference it makes.

aFe says the dry is 99.2% efficient and the Pro Guard 7 (oiled) is 99.7% efficient. I'm hoping that extra 0.5% efficiency is what catches the fine dust. It stands to reason that it would be with two more filter layers and the oil to hold the dust in place.
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Old 05-18-2015, 02:41 AM
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Re: Check your air filter

Well just returned from the dealer.

They weren't really impressed when they asked my problem and i proceeded to explain - in detail - with about 4-5 potential customers within ear shot.

They replaced the filter without hesitation (after checking service history) and NO reasons given for the failure, but with exactly the same style of filter.

Needless to say until my Pro5Dry arrives from the States, i'll be checking the sucker every second day to see how long it takes for the new filter to begin to fail.
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