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Old 07-05-2015, 07:17 AM
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Re: Check your air filter

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Same here. Two small tears when I checked. Have one on order. only 1000 miles on the 2015. Time for Jeep to get these updated clearly this has been an issue for a while now!
2000+ miles since I got the oem replacement. No tears so far

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Old 07-05-2015, 08:44 PM
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I don't trust aFe products, based on their published specs. I'm willing to shrug about having to change my first OEM filter early last year, but now I perceive no reason to risk using an aFe product that won't protect the engine as well as a stock air filter.

Looks like Chrysler got that quality control issue sorted out (either that, or I am better about not damaging the filter gasket than the factory installers).
I installed my aFe Pro Guard S today and I thought the quality of the filter was excellent. I've always hesitated with oiled filters and that is why I tried this dry, Pro Guard S. I'll clean it every 20k miles or so as the instructions say, but I expect this filter to be far superior to that of the OE paper Hengst filter. If I ever need the OE filter, I'll hang on to my defective (at 500 miles on the odometer,) OEM by Hengst paper filter.

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Normally with a MAF I'd say dry as well, but the dry AFE is a lesser quality filter compared to the pro guard 7. I have 2k miles and no weird problems yet (like I'd expect on a VW MAF).
The dry, aFe Pro Guard S is an equally quality filter as the Pro Guard 7, it's just a dry media filter compared to that of oiled Pro Guard 7.
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The dry, aFe Pro Guard S is an equally quality filter as the Pro Guard 7, it's just a dry media filter compared to that of oiled Pro Guard 7.
While I'm sure it is a quality filter, the 5 and 7 are different. Per AFE's website:
Without going into details of each media, the basically differences are: 1) Pro5R is 5-layers of progressively finer mesh oiled cotton gauze which offers maximum airflow. This media is ideal for those who drive mostly on paved street and highway who want maximum horsepower. 2) ProGuard7 is 5-layers of progressively finer oiled cotton gauze used in the Pro5R media backed by another 2-layers of finer porosity synthetic non-woven media which offers maximum protection. This media is ideal for those who do a lot of unpaved, off-road driving in severe dusty and dirty environments where protection is more important than maximum horsepower. This media is most popular with compression-ignition diesel truck owners. 3) ProDryS is a 3-layer progressively finer porosity synthetic non-woven media, which is oil-free and offers maximum convenience since it does not require re-oiling. This media is ideal for those who don’t want the hassle of re-oiling a filter.

Bottom line, I'll still do a UOA at the 10k mark to verify this filter works as I don't have absolute trust in any air filter except oe. Well, not in this case as the OE design sucks. The Jeep 3.0L filter box is smaller than my 1.9L VW TDI air box. I think it's a design flaw.
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Old 07-06-2015, 10:57 AM
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Re: Check your air filter

Our filter's efficiency is 97% initial and 99% overall. I bought a new OEM filter from the dealer and will swap it out at 30K miles. My filter is just fine no issues. I checked my filter at 24K miles and it would probably based on my driving go 50K miles before really needing changed.
For protection of my extended service contract I am sticking with OEM. YMMV.
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Old 07-06-2015, 01:05 PM
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Our filter's efficiency is 97% initial and 99% overall. I bought a new OEM filter from the dealer and will swap it out at 30K miles. My filter is just fine no issues. I checked my filter at 24K miles and it would probably based on my driving go 50K miles before really needing changed.
For protection of my extended service contract I am sticking with OEM. YMMV.
aFe claims 99.2% efficiency on the Pro Dry S
Pro Dry S

On the JGC EcoDiesel filter, they claim a 34% increase in CFM (admittedly, not my reason for using the filter,) while retaining OE levels of filtration efficiency. Clean your filters at recommended intervals just as you otherwise would, and I'm thinking it should be nothing but good.


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Re: Check your air filter

Very possible that the tears were done by ham-fisted installation personnel - I think that since the filter needs to be snugged down a bit for a proper fit, I wonder if they weren't jammed down during the final assembly stage. And by forcing the filter in the air box with a little ungraceful force, the rubber along the edges got stress cracks. Seems like most people putting in *the same* filter after the original failed are not having any tearing issues.
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Old 07-06-2015, 03:49 PM
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Re: Check your air filter

Found this review of aFe's Pro Dry S air filters. I am well familiar with K&N's oiled filters, and just never wanted to go there with the MAF's, but I never realized there were superior, performance air filters that were dry.

Confirming that they are indeed every bit as efficient in filtration as the OE paper filters, I'm happy to stick one like this aFe on my Jeep.

Review: aFe Pro Dry S Air Filter | quirkyuncle Review: aFe Pro Dry S Air Filter | Because everyone needs a quirky uncle!
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Re: Check your air filter

I took a look at the replacement filter that the dealer put in recently. It appears slightly different than the original. The gasket appeared to have a slightly different shape, and the media looked a lighter color.

I am hoping that FCA is sourcing them from a different supplier.
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I took a look at the replacement filter that the dealer put in recently. It appears slightly different than the original. The gasket appeared to have a slightly different shape, and the media looked a lighter color.

I am hoping that FCA is sourcing them from a different supplier.

Ahh hope, the denial of reality lol. Seriously guys, this air box is tiny. Going by displacement and comparing to my TDI it's half the size it "should" be. This motor moves a lot of air, that needs a large filter, much larger than the 3.6L and even larger than the HEMI. Not everyone will have problems, sure, but this screams engineering flaw to me.
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Been tryn to get Sb filters to make a filter for me. What they really hate about this setup on the jgc Eco diesel is that the intake tube bottle necks it's way down too small right before it dumps the air into intake valves. They said its pointless lol. Arggghh!! So annoying.
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Re: Check your air filter

Finally got around to replacing the OEM filter with and aFe dry filter this weekend. Our vehicle has just over 4K miles since new.
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Looks good GCBurt. What made you decide on the CAI kit instead of just the dry drop in filter?
I still find myself adjusting to the intake noise from time to time. I recently noticed a nice turbo spin down whistle if you get on it say to 4k then let the rpms drop back to idle.
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