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#1 · (Edited)
So i went into dealer today to get those transmission updates. All is good with trans now.

While i was leaving dealer i remembered i had some credit in the parts department, so i picked up an air filter.

Got home and decided to swap out the air filter. As im trying to take the filter out the air box, the rubber on filter around the filter was breaking down and i have cracks all along the edge of it. When i looked closer into it i can actually see dirt particles that made it passed the filter and into motor. Not good. Told the dealer.

Air box post filter was slightly dusted. So pissed.

 
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#185 ·
Installed the new aFE dry filter today. The OE filter was slightly torn around one of the flanges...it's a pretty cheap piece in terms of build quality. The aFE filter is more substantial and the flange material is much higher quality (silicone rubber IIRC). However, because the air filter flange is more durable, it was somewhat difficult to reinstall the box cover as the flange lip did not compress very well. So it took several tries to insert the filter box top tabs into the bottom half filter box receptacle.

Several starts later, I got a MIL....hmmm?

The cabin air filter replacement was pretty easy. With 16k miles, the old filter was pretty dirty...
 
#186 ·
The filter itself has nothing to do with the MIL. I have to assume this is an unrelated coincidence unless something was damaged during the filter install like a maf sensor connector.
 
#187 ·
I get a MIL about every four weeks or so...usually lasts two to three days and then self-extinguishes. I think it's a coincidence more than anything....the MIL did not appear until late in the day after running around doing some errands (I installed the new air filter early in the morning). If the MAF sensor connector was dislodged or damaged during install of the new filter, the MIL should have shown up right away.
 
#190 ·
Well, I got my AFE Proguard 7 filter yesterday, have yet to put it in. My filter box is a bit tricky to get on, hard to get the tabs in the slots. Wondering if I need to file them?

Anyway, the filter comes with 2 stickers, one is a AFE sticker, and the other to put on the filter box telling people to do not discard the filter, washing instructions / warranty info. The filter appears to be deeper in height than stock and weighs a lot more. The gasket is made of a harder material and I think it will be much more durable than the OEM POS. They recommend cleaning at 3X OEM filter replacement intervals.
 
#191 ·
We all just need Dom42 to work some magic with S&B filters to get them to make an outstanding housing for us :) Their Ram 1500 EcoDiesel setup is amazing. By far the nicest after market housing I've ever seen for any vehicle. The fit, finish, and thought process that goes into their stuff is just amazing. I asked them if they are planning on a setup for our vehicle and they told me no, but maybe Dom can make it happen!?!
 
#192 ·
Sb filters is just being kinda retarded. They have it for the Rams ecodiesel. The motor is the same but he compartment for the motor is bigger allowing for more room for bigger piping.

This is there problem. The piping can only be so big with our engine compartment that the size would basically allow for no more then stock flow. Which is the main reason they have not jumped on it right away.

I'm honestly trying to drop my own money to have them make it under my name . So far no no lol.
 
#193 · (Edited)
Damn, wonder if they need a certain number of guaranteed units? I'll buy 100 if they let me sell it exclusively lol.

Weather or not it flows more is not the issue. I just want it to flow an appropriate amount safely and quietly, unlike stock apparently. Now that AFE offers a drop in pro guard 7 though, that is IMO the best of both worlds currently available.
 
#194 · (Edited)
unlike stock apparently
Meh, my first air filter had a gasket failure within 5k miles, but the replacement stock (Mopar) filter is going strong 18+ months later. I suspect the filter gaskets tear if people struggle to reassemble the airbox.

I don't want to use an AFE filter that is inferior from a filtration/engine protection standpoint. Like you, I'd be happy to pay for a filter upgrade that didn't compromise protection. As it stands, I'm going to continue with the Mopar part.
 
#195 ·
Well its been about 2000km since i identified (thanks to this forum) and had the dealer replace the faulty filter element.
So far, so good. NO rips tears or breakdown of the filter.
The replacement was exactly the same as the faulty filter, so i can only assume bad fitment during build or "dodgy" batch of filters.
 
#196 ·
Well its been about 2000km since the filter issue was identified (thanks to this forum) and i had the dealer swap out the filter.
The replacement was like for like.
So far NO tears or breakdown of the filter in any way.
I can only assume Bad fitment during assembly or a "dodgy" batch of filters.
 
#197 ·
Yeah I haven't had any issues since i original started this thread.

As far as the Sb not flowing more air and not being the issue. Well for them it is because they won't be able to market it the way they normally do.

@farfromoving hey now that's what I'm trying to do haha. All good mayb we can both be a dealer. I'm sure the more we can make, I think we have a better chance at them making it.

I'm gonna get on them more next week. Working on something with them right now for the 2016 cummins
 
#199 ·
10K on mine. Just checked it and it's torn all the way around. Not all the way through. To me, it looks like it's caused by the filter flexing under WOT or high intake air volumes. If that is true, it would leave me to believe the filter is too restrictive or the filter area is too small. Or it's just a POS.
 
#200 ·
10K on mine. Just checked it and it's torn all the way around. Not all the way through. To me, it looks like it's caused by the filter flexing under WOT or high intake air volumes. If that is true, it would leave me to believe the filter is too restrictive or the filter area is too small. Or it's just a POS.


I brought the flexing and high intake air volume up to the mechanic who last worked on replacing mine and who started a star case with FCA. He didn't rule it out and I did ask him if the filter is used in any other vehicles other than the Ecodiesel. I have yet to hear back about the star case on mine but I do plan on stopping at the dealer next week to inquire about it.
 
#203 ·
My Jeep dealer would not cover the torn filter under warranty. I assumed it would be so I told them to go ahead and get me a new one. They changed the filter and charged me $32.00 for the new one. I wasn't going to have them dig my defective one back out of the trash and re-install it. I paid the $32.00 was mad and they wouldn't back down. I had less than 3,000 miles on the vehicle at the time of cracked filter. Sad.
 
#216 ·
My 2015 filter was bad before 4K!! I didn't bother with the dealer got an aFe replacement.
 
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#212 ·
I have 14,800 miles on a 2014 Ecodiesel which was purchased new in June 2014 and I now have my 5th filter failing and the dealer started a star case when my 4th filter failed. I will be returning to the dealer soon to have them put a new one in. When a 1 year or 12,000 mile part continues to fail every 2,500 miles or so I have no problem letting the warranty pick up the cost. I am sure they will be happy to see me in a few weeks when the tear gets bigger. The dealer has been very nice about it and have been on top of getting me a new filter every time so I have no problem going back.
 
#214 ·
I am on my 4th filter in a '15. Dealer just keeps replacing. They have even found some of them faulty when getting a new one from the spare parts.

Was in a different dealer 3 weeks ago and got talking to the salesman and he said he had never heard of the problem. Lifted the bonnet of a brand new Summit on the lot, pulled the filter out and it was stuffed.

So the problem is still out there.

Trevor
 
#224 ·
I finally was able to get the Jeep into the dealership as yet another Mopar air filter was tearing after only 2250 miles on it since the last one was replaced. At the time of the last filter replacement August 2015 a STAR case was started by the dealership. The resolution this time around was to replace the entire air box and put in a new filter. The service rep did point out to me that since August 2015 the part number had changed on the filter. The 5 older filters that I had replaced all had a part number ending in "AA" and the new filter has the same number but ends in "AB." I took a look at the new filter and it seems to have a different rubber composition, one that looks a bit more resilient to wear.
 
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#227 ·
Here's a new one....I noticed my air filter was starting to crack a bit at the gaskets and I'm heading out for a long road trip this week so I ordered a new one from an online Mopar store "MoparAmerica.com". The new filter showed up and I immediately noticed it was the older "AA" part # when I specifically ordered the "AB." Spoke to the parts shop and they told me they didn't have the new part # in stock and just shipped me what they had in stock because they assumed they were the same. I explained the issue with the original filters failing and the new part # having corrected the issue, and the guy completely understood where I was coming from but said he couldn't get the new filter anytime soon and he'd take the filter back and pay for return shipping if I didn't want it. They only charged me about $26 for the filter, so I decided to just install the new older model filter for my trip this week and then deal with getting the correct one when I get back.
So today I went to install the new filter, and as I pull out the original, first the left side seal tears off completely in my hand as I'm removing it which is bad enough, but to top it off, there were two plastic gloves lodged in the underside of the filter (See picture). I had the car into the Jeep dealer a few weeks ago for a CEL and the tech must have put his gloves on the edge of the engine bay near the intake and started the car and never realized they got sucked in. I can only imagine the argument I would have had with Chrysler if my engine was destroyed because their service department didn't notice two gloves were sucked into the engine and then went through their defective air filters into the engine.
Long story short, another confirmation that it's important to check your air filter for many different reasons.
 

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