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Re: Cold Weather Start

Thanks for the report, Shannon. I'm wondering, if there is a heat source for the fuel and does it recirculate to the tank? Also where are the fuel filters located? I think I read there is a heat source for the filter system.
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Old 01-07-2014, 12:01 PM
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Sounds like you live near International Falls!!!!
Actually, just South of Minneapolis. The cold temps dipped that low down here.

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Shannon, do you use any additives? Nice to know that it starts up in negative twenties!
No additives. Just the #2 diesel that is standard in MN from October till Spring.
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Re: Cold Weather Start

-12F here and my remote start would not work. I had asked my sales rep to order a block heater cord but he didn't come through.

Also make sure you don't top off your DEF tank, it expands when it freezes.
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Re: Cold Weather Start

I've had similar experiences. My remote start does not want to work when the temps reach around -10F. I have plugged in, especially when the wind is also blowing. The jeep has always started whether plugged in or not but I have gotten the same message as the OP when the remote start won't work. Once the temps are back above 0 F remote works fine again. I haven't found anything in the manual to explain this and wish it wasn't the case. I most want the remote start to work at the most cold temperatures. Btw...fuel, additive or def levels have not mattered. Same results with different levels.
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Old 01-13-2014, 02:52 AM
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Re: Cold Weather Start

What I noticed is that if it does not start on the first turn of the engine, it disengages. In this cold, it often takes 2-3 cranks to start. Poor design on the remote start, as I agree, I need it most when it is sub zero.
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Re: Cold Weather Start

Some pretty extreme temps you are facing. I think in that extreme temp I might do a remote start every few hours to make sure the engine block holds some heat. I think in the book it says that once it gets below -10 or something like that you need to use the engine block heater. On my other diesels I know once you got down around zero starting was usually pretty interesting. I often would just let the glow plugs heat up, turn the key off and do the same thing again figuring it would heat up the cylinder a little bit too. Seemed to work but never faced much below maybe -5 or so.

I do know that you want good fuel because one time when it was in the negative numbers I had a problem with fuel gelling. Ended up freezing on the side of the road. The garage added some treatment and it started up just fine in their garage but would not start if they left it out. Finally things warmed up a bit and I was able to take it home but learned a lesson for sure. I drive a lot of miles so my take would be drained and refilled every week so I never worried much about an empty tank but for those who take weeks to empty a tank I think I would keep it pretty filled in those low temperatures.

If the OP got it to start after 8 hours in -23 I guess I will never have a problem here in PA.
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Re: Cold Weather Start

I think the remote start doesn't wait long enough for the glow plugs to heat up before trying to start.
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Re: Cold Weather Start

Although I live in Denver I have a ranch in the mountains. They've seen -27F this winter. I will most definitely "plug in" on those frigid nights at the ranch!
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Re: Cold Weather Start

Been lurking and thinking of buying a '14 (or '15) Ecodiesel, however this could be a deal breaker. I hope there will be a TSB & fix.
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Re: Cold Weather Start

NE PA which has weather very close to SE Michigan. Have relatives just North of Detroit so I am somewhat familiar with the weather there. I have been driving a diesel for over 19 years and while a few times starting was a little bit sluggish I have not had any issues starting. the newer engines start so much better than the older ones so think that choosing some other vehicle because a few days a year your remote start might not work is probably a mistake. The JGC is pretty incredible and I think that the diesel engine is what puts it at the top of the heap.
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Old 01-20-2014, 01:20 PM
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Only happened on one night - the coldest night in Minnesota in over 20 years. I would not let this be a deal breaker. Starts fine every other time. In addition, it started fine that night, just not with the remote start.
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