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Thanks. Maybe I'm overreacting, but this just seems like such dumb design and QA. How hard is it to have remote start and glow plug control work together? Do the US market Euro-diesels have this problem?
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Old 01-21-2014, 12:30 PM
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Thanks. Maybe I'm overreacting, but this just seems like such dumb design and QA. How hard is it to have remote start and glow plug control work together? Do the US market Euro-diesels have this problem?
Agreed, it should allow the engine to turn over more than once. It starts when it is this cold, but takes 2-3 turns of the engine before it starts.
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Re: Cold Weather Start

I'm glad I found this thread again. This happened to me at work today and knew I had read a thread about it. Diesel guys the 2011-2013 gas versions are the same. Not that you care but, we are here to share info haha.
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This polar vortex is testing our EcoDiesels. Tomorrow night, going to be -30 with -60 wind chills.
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Re: Cold Weather Start

They come with a built in engine heater. When it gets cold just plug it in. Gas engines have trouble starting when it gets that cold too so I think it is not an issue that should be a deal killer. This winter so far has had more really cold days than we have seen in the last several years combined.

In talking to someone who spent some time in Alaska they said that in the bitter cold they either plug in or keep the vehicle running. Extreme cold is just that extreme and compared to earlier Diesels the newer designs are incredible. Get a diesel and you really will wonder what you even were worried about.

Oh on the flip side Diesels do not generate as much heat as a gas engine so when it is really hot out and you get stuck in traffic, a diesel engine is far less likely to overheat as a gas engine.
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Re: Cold Weather Start

Granted, mine stays in a garage - not heated but at least sheltered from the wind. No block heater cord (yet). With an ambient temp of 0F this morning and wind chill in the negative teens, I opened the garage door and clicked the remote start.

Fired right up.

No fuel additives (yet), as I said, no block heater cord yet. About 3k miles on it since buying it on December 21, and its been pure joy. A real workhorse, and MUCH better with the cold than my 01 Cummins - even though it HAS a block heater and winter grill cover that I use religiously!
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Re: Cold Weather Start

I think with it being in a garage it would take a very long time for the engine to cool down to match the outside temp. the other night I put a pot of soup out on my sun room and the temp went down to mid teens and when I went to use it the following day it still was not frozen. In the older TDI I would not take a chance by not plugging it in when it got down in the 20s and with the newer jetta I had no heater but never had temps like we are getting and this has seen subzero a few times and never a problem with it starting.

Supposed to go to -8 tonight so I am thinking about plugging it in but primarily so that it warms up quicker. I also think it saves the engine when you crank it and the oil is not so cold.
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Re: Cold Weather Start

Shannon, this thread is making me miss the diesel start up drama I experienced with my '06 Liberty!

I got a kick out of it.
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This polar vortex is testing our EcoDiesels. Tomorrow night, going to be -30 with -60 wind chills.
Or, as we used to call it in Montana, a luvverly spring day.
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Re: Cold Weather Start

to those that keep mentioning wind chill.. wind chill has no bearing on inanimate objects. 20 below is 20 below. the difference being that wind will just speed up the process of cooling off. And in my opinion to not use an anti gel in the coldest of climates just seems like taking chances that i wouldnt want to risk,the additive isnt that expensive and i wouldnt want to risk myself or family freezing to death on a deserted road because of something so simple.
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Thanks for the further posts. Really want to love the idea of owning the new diesel. Sometimes I go to a remote lake cabin in northern Michigan. Not practical to have the steep gravel driveway constantly plowed, so we dig a parking space at the top and walk/snowshoe down several hundred feet in. No option to plug engine block in, and vehicle is fully exposed to wind.

Even before the first "polar vortex" this year, it got down to -15 F around Christmas. Having the remote start work just fine on my '08 WK 4.7L before I trudged up the driveway in 2' of snow with the wind blasting in my face one morning was really nifty.

Keep the cold weather experiences with the new diesel coming in!
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Re: Cold Weather Start

If you have to park it somewhere there's no power, "shelter" it a bit. Set up its spot so the trunk faces the wind, and the grille and front fenders are in a snowbank. Put a cold front cover on the grille/radiator, to help keep wind out of the engine bay. It won't be inside...but at least it'll have some protection and maybe hold a little bit of heat from the night before.
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