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Re: Cold Weather Start

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If you have to park it somewhere there's no power, "shelter" it a bit. Set up its spot so the trunk faces the wind, and the grille and front fenders are in a snowbank. Put a cold front cover on the grille/radiator, to help keep wind out of the engine bay. It won't be inside...but at least it'll have some protection and maybe hold a little bit of heat from the night before.
Thanks. Or I can just keep my trusty '08 WK 4.7L for now.
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Re: Cold Weather Start

In Northern Michigan temps in the negative teens is probably a more frequent occurrence than where I live in PA so I really would think about getting a long extension cord for those bitter cold nights. My previous car had to be plugged in so I just had a timer that would turn the power on for a few hours before I would head to work.

I also read where people would put blankets on their engines at night so that it would hold its temperature longer. Over night is not a problem as it takes a good while before the engine matches the ambient air temp but if it is parked for days at a time especially if the temp is going to drop below -20 I would really need to know I had the means to plug it in.
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Old 01-29-2014, 11:43 AM
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Re: Cold Weather Start

So far, -25 with no manual start issues, no fuel additives, and no problems running. For those of you who say windchill has no effect, yes, maybe no effect on the Jeep, but try walking to the Jeep when it is -60 windchill - when you freeze the second you step outside
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Re: Cold Weather Start

You have a 4.7 that hasn't developed a rod knock yet?
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You have a 4.7 that hasn't developed a rod knock yet?
thats just "cold"
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Re: Cold Weather Start

Coldest I have been in was around -18 and that was pre gortex and thinsulate so what I remember most was you could not take your gloves off or your fingertips hurt and that I was dressed as heavy as I ever had and walking up a steep hill I did not have to unbutton anything. It was fun hunting where you could hear the deer a mile away like a group of kids walking through dry leaves. Of course nobodies gun would fire so all I was able to do was shiver and look at the deer who did not care to run away in that temperature either. Sort of was like being at a petting zoo.

For the rest of us who do not ever or perhaps once in a life time see temps like that, it was -2 and 0 the last two nights and mine started up just as easily as it did on the warmer days. I take it easy until I see the oil has warmed up but other than waiting for the inside to warm up it operates exactly the same as before. My TDI would shift strangely when it was really cold until it warmed up.

Shannon cannot believe that you do not plug your vehicle in when it gets that cold. As far as windchill goes I wish they would change that term into something like time. Set a fixed size object at a set temperature and then expose it to temperature at different wind speeds and measure the time it takes to drop 10 or 20 degrees. Then it would mean something instead of people thinking the temperature is so much colder than it really is.
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Coldest I have been in was around -18 and that was pre gortex and thinsulate so what I remember most was you could not take your gloves off or your fingertips hurt and that I was dressed as heavy as I ever had and walking up a steep hill I did not have to unbutton anything. It was fun hunting where you could hear the deer a mile away like a group of kids walking through dry leaves. Of course nobodies gun would fire so all I was able to do was shiver and look at the deer who did not care to run away in that temperature either. Sort of was like being at a petting zoo.

For the rest of us who do not ever or perhaps once in a life time see temps like that, it was -2 and 0 the last two nights and mine started up just as easily as it did on the warmer days. I take it easy until I see the oil has warmed up but other than waiting for the inside to warm up it operates exactly the same as before. My TDI would shift strangely when it was really cold until it warmed up.

Shannon cannot believe that you do not plug your vehicle in when it gets that cold. As far as windchill goes I wish they would change that term into something like time. Set a fixed size object at a set temperature and then expose it to temperature at different wind speeds and measure the time it takes to drop 10 or 20 degrees. Then it would mean something instead of people thinking the temperature is so much colder than it really is.
Living in Minnesota, we see all kinds of extremes. I personally would rather see -20 with no wind than zero with -20 windchill. When the wind hits you when it is cold, it really bites. As long as the wind is fairly still, the sub zero temps really are not that bad if you are wearing the right gear.
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living in minnesota, we see all kinds of extremes. I personally would rather see -20 with no wind than zero with -20 windchill. When the wind hits you when it is cold, it really bites. As long as the wind is fairly still, the sub zero temps really are not that bad if you are wearing the right gear.
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Thanks. Maybe I'm overreacting, but this just seems like such dumb design and QA. How hard is it to have remote start and glow plug control work together? Do the US market Euro-diesels have this problem?
not sure what you mean, but if you mean the JGC Euro spec diesel, it does not have remote start, not allowed, at least not in most countries in Europe, possibly all.
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Just a note. We had -11F last night, got up and tried to remote start and it turned over once and died. Bundled up and went out to start it up and it cranked for about 30 secs and didn't start. All kinds of warnings were going on. (air bag, low battery) Manual says to leave it for 2 minutes and try again. I got out, hooked up the engine block heater and went back inside. Needed to leave hooked up for two hours. Got in started her and boy did she run rough. Trans temp at 2F and oil at 9F. Let it idle for awhile and then took it out for 10 minute drive. Engine light now won't go off.

This is still the first tank of diesel from the dealership but who knows.
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Just a note. We had -11F last night, got up and tried to remote start and it turned over once and died. Bundled up and went out to start it up and it cranked for about 30 secs and didn't start. All kinds of warnings were going on. (air bag, low battery) Manual says to leave it for 2 minutes and try again. I got out, hooked up the engine block heater and went back inside. Needed to leave hooked up for two hours. Got in started her and boy did she run rough. Trans temp at 2F and oil at 9F. Let it idle for awhile and then took it out for 10 minute drive. Engine light now won't go off.

This is still the first tank of diesel from the dealership but who knows.
The engine light will go off when you drive 60-70 miles. There is an issue with the DEF tank not getting warm enough with the heater in the cold temps. My light did not go on until it hit close to -25. The dealer says Jeep is aware, and working on a fix to improve the heat for the DEF tank. You might want to add some anti gel diesel to your fuel tank until you are able to get a full tank of #2 winter blend.
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The engine light will go off when you drive 60-70 miles. There is an issue with the DEF tank not getting warm enough with the heater in the cold temps. My light did not go on until it hit close to -25. The dealer says Jeep is aware, and working on a fix to improve the heat for the DEF tank. You might want to add some anti gel diesel to your fuel tank until you are able to get a full tank of #2 winter blend.
I figured it was something like that since I'm on the dealer's tank still. I'll just plug it on nights (like tonight -12F) and give the car a little extra time to warm up. Thanks for the reply!
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