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Old 08-10-2015, 04:12 PM
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Considering Trading my 14' Overland V8 for 15' Limited ED

Hello,

As the title says I currently have a 14' Overland 5.7 V8 4x4, and I am strongly considering a 15' Limited EcoDiesel 4x4.

My Overland has advanced tech of which I only ever use blind spot and cross path anyway.

The Limited I would be considering has:
  • Luxury 2
  • Nav
  • Blind Sport / Cross Path
  • Offroad 1
  • Tow Package

So pretty much the same features, minus air suspension and of course diesel.

My question is has anyone made a similar change, what are the thoughts of air vs std. suspension. Would I miss my V8 or fall in love with EcoDiesel?


*I have a TDI so this would not be my first diesel.





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Old 08-10-2015, 04:36 PM
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Re: Considering Trading my 14' Overland V8 for 15' Limited ED

While I haven't made the change you're considering, I did rent a gas 3.6L V-6 and put 1,000 miles on it over a long weekend road trip. One thing about the EcoDiesel is that there is significant turbo lag - from a standing start, if you punch the accelerator it is about a second before it kicks in. Definitely noticeable, and a definite lag.

I suggest road testing one and try a few acceleration tests. It's hard to say what you will and won't miss, but others who have made the change can attest to what they miss.

As I age I am getting more patient (I'm a young 54), so I don't miss the off-the-line starts as much. If I really need to jump off the line I use my left foot for braking, and anticipate. I'm able to pass most cars that aren't looking to drag race, to then move over to the lane I need.

If you like MPGs and long range tankfuls, there's nothing like the diesel.

Good luck in your shopping/considering.

Oh and BTW, ED stands for erectile disfunction, that's why I use CRD when I'm too lazy to type out EcoDiesel.
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Re: Considering Trading my 14' Overland V8 for 15' Limited ED

I went from a 2014 3.6L Limited, ORAII, Sunroof, Nav to a 2015 5.7L Overland to a 2015 3.0L EcoDiesel Limited, ORAII, LuxuryII.

I'll sum up each - I loved my 3.6L and thought if I love this car this much, I'll love the next highest trim level and bigger engine even more. Unfortunately, I didn't care for the exterior looks of the Overland as much, hated the wood steering wheel and really hated the dash rattle that my dealer couldn't fix. The 5.7L power was great, the fuel economy was annoying. I also didn't like the fact that I didn't have ORAII. So, I looked to replace it.

I didn't really consider the EcoDiesel, but my dealer had a Limited with LuxII and ORAII in my color combo coming in the next week, but it had the EcoDiesel. I started doing some research and did about 4 EcoDiesel test drives and although I had some reliability concerns I loved how it drove and decided to go for it.

So far I love the car. I make up excuses to go drive it. I have 1200 miles on it now comprised of my 40 mile round trip city/hwy commute to work, a trip to and through Rocky Mountain National Park, and another day trip from Denver to the mountains. It's the perfect balance of power and fuel economy. I'm averaging 25 mpg and it's a blast to drive.

Let me know if you have any other questions!
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Re: Considering Trading my 14' Overland V8 for 15' Limited ED

Outside of the mentioned turbo lag off the line the crd is quite peppy in most circumstances in my experience. It pulls quite hard especially below 50mph. Fuel economy is great and tows excellent. I debated the crap out of hemi vs diesel when i was going to buy and have no regrets.
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Re: Considering Trading my 14' Overland V8 for 15' Limited ED

An Ecodiesel with the GDE tune is good to go. As far as springs vs air, well I can't help you there. Never drove regular springs on a GC.
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Re: Considering Trading my 14' Overland V8 for 15' Limited ED

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Outside of the mentioned turbo lag off the line the crd is quite peppy in most circumstances in my experience. It pulls quite hard especially below 50mph. Fuel economy is great and tows excellent. I debated the crap out of hemi vs diesel when i was going to buy and have no regrets.
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Re: Considering Trading my 14' Overland V8 for 15' Limited ED

Recently picked up a 2015 Grand Cherokee, after a few test drives and debating the finer points, we decided on a Limited EcoDiesel w/Luxury 2, ORA1, and NAV. Basic interior and upgrades from an Overland, without the potential headaches of the QL suspension. Actually preferred the handling of the conventional suspension of the ORA1. It was only going to be an EcoDiesel in either case.
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Re: Considering Trading my 14' Overland V8 for 15' Limited ED

If you do any kind of towing I think something that will be a difference is the elimination of the air suspension. While you turn the air suspension off to set up towing WDH, I think its been a great advantage when towing my travel trailer.
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Re: Considering Trading my 14' Overland V8 for 15' Limited ED

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Hello,

As the title says I currently have a 14' Overland 5.7 V8 4x4, and I am strongly considering a 15' Limited EcoDiesel 4x4.

My Overland has advanced tech of which I only ever use blind spot and cross path anyway.

The Limited I would be considering has:
  • Luxury 2
  • Nav
  • Blind Sport / Cross Path
  • Offroad 1
  • Tow Package

So pretty much the same features, minus air suspension and of course diesel.

My question is has anyone made a similar change, what are the thoughts of air vs std. suspension. Would I miss my V8 or fall in love with EcoDiesel?


*I have a TDI so this would not be my first diesel.





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We test drove a standard suspension versus air suspension. The air suspension is much more planted in the corners and slightly firmer. I felt more of the small bumps with the air suspension, but it was hard to say if that was the air suspension or different tires/wheels.

We went with the Off Road II package that has the 18" wheels and the air suspension. It's been a great combination.

We test drove the V6 gas versus the diesel, so I don't have any input on the Hemi. The dealer we were at didn't have the Hemi on the lot.

If you can get a dealer to let you test drive, that's going to answer a lot of questions. Hemi versus diesel is pretty subjective.

Personally, I like the lower revving power, so the diesel was my first choice.
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Re: Considering Trading my 14' Overland V8 for 15' Limited ED

I haven't noticed much turbo lag with the diesel. The turbo is low pressure and the torque of the diesel kicks in at low revs. Really pulls hard without having to push the motor.
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Re: Considering Trading my 14' Overland V8 for 15' Limited ED

I think it is more the electronic throttle than turbo lag. This thing really gets up and goes.
Personally I would not be without the air suspension either.
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We test drove a standard suspension versus air suspension. The air suspension is much more planted in the corners and slightly firmer. I felt more of the small bumps with the air suspension, but it was hard to say if that was the air suspension or different tires/wheels.
You really feel like the air suspension is firmer and more planted?? My 2012 Overland was 4x2 so it didn't have the air suspension.. I don't remember it feeling as floaty and there's a bit of nose dive when hitting the brakes. That's why everyone is hoping to see a sport tuned air suspension on the High Altitude...
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