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Old 05-05-2014, 06:38 AM
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Glad you are enjoying it. However, $4300, or $5000, then add the 85-90 cent per gallon difference in my area is very hard to justify IMHO. Then you have to add in the additional high maintenance costs, it's just not for me.
Just out of curiosity.... That difference doesn't drop significantly during the summer (fuel prices)
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Glad you are enjoying it. However, $4300, or $5000, then add the 85-90 cent per gallon difference in my area is very hard to justify IMHO. Then you have to add in the additional high maintenance costs, it's just not for me.
When compared to a more equivalent vehicle like the Hemi GC, it makes plenty of sense.
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Re: Convince me as to why I want a diesel

The diesel makes a huge difference if you're doing any amount of towing. My 17-18mpg pulling around 3k per year vs 9-11mpg in gas is significant (08 JGC CRD).

Diesel pricing is always cheaper relative to gas in the summer months, or at least has for the last 3 years. Peak gas pricing has put regular above diesel for a few weeks each summer since Ive been watching.

Look up resale on an 07-08 JGC and compare a CRD vs V8. You get that initial price jump back.
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The diesel makes a huge difference if you're doing any amount of towing. My 17-18mpg pulling around 3k per year vs 9-11mpg in gas is significant (08 JGC CRD).

Diesel pricing is always cheaper relative to gas in the summer months, or at least has for the last 3 years. Peak gas pricing has put regular above diesel for a few weeks each summer since Ive been watching.

Look up resale on an 07-08 JGC and compare a CRD vs V8. You get that initial price jump back.
100% on board with you there... I tow a 7180 Pound trailer and average about 1 MPG better than that but got slightly worse than you are getting on a Gas model

When I have done the most driving Diesel has usually been on par and often lower.
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Re: Convince me as to why I want a diesel

According to another thread, the technology group is no longer required to order the diesel engine which might sway some people to switch that were balking at the price.
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Re: Convince me as to why I want a diesel

The ATG wasn't required on the Limited from day 1. I have an early build without ATG.
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I think he meant that Lux II is no longer a requirement.
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Re: Convince me as to why I want a diesel

I'm curious after skimming this thread how the reliability if of these Jeep diesel's. The 3.0L in the WK seemed to be a piece of you know what. I'm all for diesel but it better be worth the premium. Wish the US would fully adopt it already.
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Re: Convince me as to why I want a diesel

Try lurking in the Aussie diesel forum. They're too new here to really tell about reliability, but they've had them in Aus for a few years now as I recall. OTOH they don't have to worry about DEF over there, so ours is slightly more complex.
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Re: Convince me as to why I want a diesel

There was an issue with the CRD in the WK that caused the swirl valve on the turbo to go bad although there is a cheap workaround.

Mine was replaced during my extended warranty and the CRD was still running strong at 126,000 miles when we traded it in for a 2014.


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There was an issue with the CRD in the WK that caused the swirl valve on the turbo to go bad although there is a cheap workaround.

Mine was replaced during my extended warranty and the CRD was still running strong at 126,000 miles when we traded it in for a 2014.
But then you are talking about the Mercedes Power plant not the VM... The aussies have a better match to compare reliability. Personally I would not be comparing the Mercedes to this engine.... A Lot of Oil leaks on the Mercedes design and it is not that similar other than displacement.
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When compared to a more equivalent vehicle like the Hemi GC, it makes plenty of sense.

Yep. I'm interested only in the Overland. I drove all 3 engines. The 3.6V6 is not even an option for me. It's feels too weak on-road for that much money. The Hemi feels great on-road, top and bottom end. The ED feels great on the bottom end, but not so great at higher speeds, unless you use the paddle shifters. I can live with that. The price difference between the Hemi and ED is $1300. I calculated that I would spend about $750-$850 per year more in fuel and oil changes combined for the Hemi. In other words, after 2 years, I would be ahead with the ED. I simply bugs me to fill up often.

Fuel here is 10-20 cents higher per gallon for diesel compared to midgrade.
ED oil change intervals are spec'd at 10,000 miles and costly. Hemi at 6,000 miles. In both cases, I would do the changes before that.

Reliability of the environmental crud on the ED is a big deterrent though.
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