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Does 2016-2017 Have Stop-Start?

Can anybody confirm if the 2016 and 2017 ecodiesel grand Cherokees have the stop-start feature? I know, different model years, so answer may be different.

I am interested in the 2017 trail hawk, but am having a hard time confirming if it will have stop-start. My 2015 does not and I am very thankful for it.

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Re: Does 2016-2017 Have Stop-Start?

ESS is only used on the 3.6L Pentastar. It's not on the V8 or EcoDeezil.
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Re: Does 2016-2017 Have Stop-Start?

I didn't think the Trailhawk will be available in the EcoDiesel? Not sure if that was because of the DEF harness underneath on the passenger side or not; (prone to standing pools of water, let alone anything off-road.)
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Re: Does 2016-2017 Have Stop-Start?

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I didn't think the Trailhawk will be available in the EcoDiesel? Not sure if that was because of the DEF harness underneath on the passenger side or not; (prone to standing pools of water, let alone anything off-road.)
http://wk2jeeps.com/pdf/2017_WK2_Tra...ecs.pdf#page=3
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Re: Does 2016-2017 Have Stop-Start?

I'm curious about this too as I am looking at a 17' Trailhawk.
Does the 15' GC have this feature? If it doesn't then I might just look for a 15' Overland...
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I'm curious about this too as I am looking at a 17' Trailhawk.
Does the 15' GC have this feature? If it does then I might just look for a 15' Overland...
No trim of Ecodiesel will have start and stop. It's not an absolutely feature as it's incredible hard on the diesel itself
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Re: Does 2016-2017 Have Stop-Start?

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No trim of Ecodiesel will have start and stop. It's not an absolutely feature as it's incredible hard on the diesel itself
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Re: Does 2016-2017 Have Stop-Start?

Diesels use so little fuel at idle that gains from an ESS system would be negligible. Take into account the increased power necessary to crank a diesel engine and it becomes even less advantageous.
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Does 2016-2017 Have Stop-Start?

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Diesels use so little fuel at idle that gains from an ESS system would be negligible. Take into account the increased power necessary to crank a diesel engine and it becomes even less advantageous.

Your logic is flawed. Start-stop technology has been widely used and accepted in European luxury sedans - in Europe - since 2011. It is and has been proven to save fuel dramatically, and the increased power as you are quoting above is negligible at best. The technology, already proven in Europe—and of course, in a different form, in many hybrid models—has reached a sort of tipping point, such that it isn’t just being cautiously introduced by a single automaker; nearly all of the new diesels offered by luxury brands will soon have stop-start, and every single diesel introduced in the fall in fall of 2013 in a luxury vehicle has it. That includes the BMW 328d sport sedan, the Mercedes-Benz E250 Bluetec, and the new TDI versions of the Audi A6 and A8 sedans, A7 hatchback, and Q5 crossover.
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