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Draining DEF

I learned you can drain the DEF tank yesterday (seems most think you can't).

To drain the tank:
1. Tank is right behind the hitch
2. Remove lower skid plate via 6 10mm bolts.
3. Remove 3 star bit screws on bottom of pump.
4. Place oil pan under pump.
5. pull straight down on pump (DEF will start coming out as you pull)
6. Grab some beer because it will take 2-3 hours to drain a full tank
7. Once def stops dripping reinstall all parts.
8. Clear codes.
9. add new DEF
10. Enjoy no codes


there may be an easier way, but it worked for me
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Old 07-17-2014, 09:53 AM
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Re: Draining DEF

I wish I had known this before I sent mine to the dealer! I tried siphoning which is impossible.

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Re: Draining DEF

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I wish I had known this before I sent mine to the dealer! I tried siphoning which is impossible.

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There is a check valve at the bottom of the tube. So yes, impossible lol. I tried with a 6' piece of fuel hose, and it just stops at about 3' in. (top of tank I assume)

You could go as far as running power to the pump to drain it quicker, but I wasn't in a hurry.
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Old 07-17-2014, 12:39 PM
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Re: Draining DEF

If I ever have that tank pulled, I'm installing a drain valve in it. Whoever designed a tank to hold a perishable fluid and didn't include a drain is a freakin idiot.
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If I ever have that tank pulled, I'm installing a drain valve in it. Whoever designed a tank to hold a perishable fluid and didn't include a drain is a freakin idiot.
Once you get the lower skid plate bracket off there is plenty of access too install one. Would put in a fumoto valve and cut a hole in the plate as well. Good call, may be my next project.
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Re: Draining DEF

These definitely were installed with a short sighted view (no drain for a perishable fluid and no protection for easy to damage injector and harness from a rock or splashing water).
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Re: Draining DEF

I could make a drain and sell it if there was enough interest
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Re: Draining DEF

I would be interested but I think I'd prefer an opening on the top or side of the tank to assure it is protected. A siphon hose could empty it from there with ease.

The issue I see with adding a port or drain is creating debris when cutting the hole. Any contamination could clog the injector.
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Re: Draining DEF

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If I ever have that tank pulled, I'm installing a drain valve in it. Whoever designed a tank to hold a perishable fluid and didn't include a drain is a freakin idiot.
Agree. You'd also think that the manufacturers would tweak the injection algorithm so that more is used as it degrades rather than simply triggering a fault if the expected NOx reduction doesn't occur.
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Re: Draining DEF

How long did it take until the computer told you to refill the DEF? Not that I care to refill it if I don't have to, but I have 8000 miles and 6 months on the same factory DEF. After the hot summers of Phoenix I would expect the DEF to be "expiring" by now. The gauge is still showing over 1/2 full. Has been at 1/2 for about 2 months now.
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How long did it take until the computer told you to refill the DEF? Not that I care to refill it if I don't have to, but I have 8000 miles and 6 months on the same factory DEF. After the hot summers of Phoenix I would expect the DEF to be "expiring" by now. The gauge is still showing over 1/2 full. Has been at 1/2 for about 2 months now.
6k to 10k is all you should get from an 8 gallon tank. Usage runs 800 to 1200 miles per gallon depending on driving style.
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If I ever have that tank pulled, I'm installing a drain valve in it. Whoever designed a tank to hold a perishable fluid and didn't include a drain is a freakin idiot.
I thought that only problem with DEF was unprotected nozzles. Why DEF should be drained? Wouldn't any DEF issue be fixed in 2015 models or with tsbs?
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