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Old 07-22-2014, 02:57 PM
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Re: Eco Button Impact on Performance?

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I worked with a friend of mine - also a member on here - and compiled a spreadsheet 8 weeks ago - using just EPA numbers, real world fuel prices based upon prices here in the upper Midwest, and using DEF of $5/gallon, dealer oil change costs. The EcoDiesel v/s the V8 will pay for itself within 14 months, and the EcoDiesel v/s the V6 will pay for itself in 36 months, all based purely on fuel economy.

None of the data was manipulated in anyway, so please spare the rhetoric of how a spreadsheet can be skewed/manipulated in order to achieve the desired results. And, with his permission, I would be happy to share the spreadsheet with anyone. We did the same on the other forum, but there was so much anti-diesel hate, and so many anti-diesel trolls that the thread was removed.


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Re: Eco Button Impact on Performance?

OK,

So here is the mathematical "skinny" on our trip.

We drove from Deming, NM straight through to Kerrville, TX - 591 miles.
25mpg (actually 25.92) was hand calculated using a tank fill at the end of the trip with 2.2 gallons left in the tank. 24.8 mpg showed on the computer, (trip A) which I reset when we hit the 80mph marker on I-10. I was curious to see the dynamic mpg at 80mph cruise on I-10, going up and down the hills. I also wanted to check the Low Fuel light, which came on at 3 gallons, just like it should, around 16 miles or so before we got home.

Total trip mpg from Deming to Kerrville was 25.92mpg with mainly 80/75 and 70 mph cruise settings, dropping to 65 through El Paso.

We've regularly seen 31/33 mpg at 60/65mph cruising "on the flat".


I LOVE this vehicle....... As of this writing at a shade under 10k miles, we have not had one single issue/problem/niggle/nitpick.

Now, I just hope that statement didn't "call down the Devil" on me LOL !
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Re: Eco Button Impact on Performance?

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Yea, I got the shifter there one time but only while playing at a light and didn't leave it there. Would have hated to have scared the sales rep!
A good sales rep would have suggested trying both...
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Re: Eco Button Impact on Performance?

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This is how I am feeling about a majority of the other vehicles in the market that come with the Diesel engines. They cost significantly more and come with less options than the JGC does (2 Speed Trans Case is a must for me). My father has had the V6 Gasser JGC for over 2 years with no troubles. I have had 2 JKU's with no troubles. Plus I drive 30K miles a year.

With driving 30K miles a year, I too don't worry about 0-60 but I do care about power to get on the highway, lane changing and passing abilities. That's where I felt the JGC was weaker than the Touareg. You all are making me think I just need to go back and turn the ECO mode off and try it again.
If y'all want to deal with getting onto highways quicker, try the V8.
Do a 60-80 run with and without sport mode.

Although way down in the grunt range, I suspect the diesel is a tad quicker, just doesn't feel like it.
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Re: Eco Button Impact on Performance?

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I worked with a friend of mine - also a member on here - and compiled a spreadsheet 8 weeks ago - using just EPA numbers, real world fuel prices based upon prices here in the upper Midwest, and using DEF of $5/gallon, dealer oil change costs. The EcoDiesel v/s the V8 will pay for itself within 14 months, and the EcoDiesel v/s the V6 will pay for itself in 36 months, all based purely on fuel economy.

None of the data was manipulated in anyway, so please spare the rhetoric of how a spreadsheet can be skewed/manipulated in order to achieve the desired results. And, with his permission, I would be happy to share the spreadsheet with anyone. We did the same on the other forum, but there was so much anti-diesel hate, and so many anti-diesel trolls that the thread was removed.


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If y'all want to deal with getting onto highways quicker, try the V8.
Do a 60-80 run with and without sport mode.

Although way down in the grunt range, I suspect the diesel is a tad quicker, just doesn't feel like it.
it is the roar of the hemi, makes everything feel faster
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Feel free to share away......It just makes the argument that much easier....




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Re: Eco Button Impact on Performance?

So i tried this 60-80 pull in the 3 day old EcoDiesel on the way home today... yeah, it's got plenty of power. Will be installing my Escort Redline as soon as it's back from repair.
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Keep in mind, there are three modes. ECO on,ECO off and Sport.
And manual....

I definitely notice a difference between Eco on and off, the tranny doesn't want to change down for that extra oomph when you put your foot down in eco, and wants to change up too early.
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Re: Eco Button Impact on Performance?

Comparing performance on a test drive that random people at the dealership have possibly tromped on is not a great comparison but cannot be helped either. I personally find my JGC Diesel smoother shifting and certainly more powerful than my 2009 ML320 which walked a few VWs.

The truck adapts very nicely to driving style and power wise really opens up after 5000 miles.
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