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EcoDiesel for the Wife as a Daily Driver?

Folk,

Some great deals out there on '15s right now.

While I "like" the idea of the diesel, not sure if it is the right fit. Would be the wife's daily driver, we don't tow anything (but like that we could), but do like the 30MPG idea.

She primarily drives around in a planned community for work. Most trips are like 3 to 10 miles with stoplights. Maybe 10k a year if even that.

Am I out of my mind considering a diesel?

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Re: EcoDiesel for the Wife as a Daily Driver?

Honestly - If you plan on doing a lot of short trips and city driving only at slower speeds. The diesel really doesn't shine here unless you need power and do lots of miles where it pays off. A hybrid does its best work in city and short trips where the battery is repeatedly charged and can assist the gas engine. Gas engines can handle shorter trips as they get up to temp faster and run cleaner fuel. Diesels need temp and to run for longer periods of time more often to burn out particulate filter.

My wife drives ours often but she has a 20-25 min commute one way and we use it for long trips / travel and towing pretty frequently where our payoff of the diesel over the Hemi is much faster. Also don't run into need for forced regens at all.
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Would be the wife's daily driver, we don't tow anything (but like that we could), but do like the 30MPG idea. She primarily drives around in a planned community for work. Most trips are like 3 to 10 miles with stoplights.
I love my EcoDiesel. This is my typical daily drive as well. I get ~12 L/100km in the summer and ~15 L/100 km in the winter (thanks to winter blend and ambient temps). Call it 19 mpg in the summer and 15 mpg in the winter.

You won't see anywhere near 7.8 L/100 km (30 mpg) in the use case you describe, even with an aftermarket tune.

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Nope. I always wanted a diesel and now I have one. Don't buy it expecting it to save money, though. You'll just be upset.
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Re: EcoDiesel for the Wife as a Daily Driver?

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Folk,

Some great deals out there on '15s right now.

While I "like" the idea of the diesel, not sure if it is the right fit. Would be the wife's daily driver, we don't tow anything (but like that we could), but do like the 30MPG idea.

She primarily drives around in a planned community for work. Most trips are like 3 to 10 miles with stoplights. Maybe 10k a year if even that.

Am I out of my mind considering a diesel?
That short of trip will not see the benefit of 30mpg tanks. I currently drive 5.5 miles one way back and forth to work and usually see about 20-21 mpg. As soon as I get out on a highway, however, the mileage immediately gets up to the upper 20s, low 30s.
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Re: EcoDiesel for the Wife as a Daily Driver?

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That short of trip will not see the benefit of 30mpg tanks. I currently drive 5.5 miles one way back and forth to work and usually see about 20-21 mpg. As soon as I get out on a highway, however, the mileage immediately gets up to the upper 20s, low 30s.
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I love my EcoDiesel. This is my typical daily drive as well. I get ~12 L/100km in the summer and ~15 L/100 km in the winter (thanks to winter blend and ambient temps). Call it 19 mpg in the summer and 15 mpg in the winter.

You won't see anywhere near 7.8 L/100 km (30 mpg) in the use case you describe, even with an aftermarket tune.

Nope. I always wanted a diesel and now I have one. Don't buy it expecting it to save money, though. You'll just be upset.
I've routinely seen 30+ mpg on highway drives. Even from door to door with all the stopping and acceleration and idling, when I drive long trips i am seeing around 34 mpg. Like not just highway I'm talking about door to door. And I drive with a roof rack and Duratracs....
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Re: EcoDiesel for the Wife as a Daily Driver?

While it is my vehicle, my wife drives it more and more, for errands and cause it keeps my granddaughter occupied.. ( DVD Player...!). She usually never comments on any car we or she has, as long as it runs and is dependable. (She drives a Murano AWD) But,.... She has made more positive comments about this vehicle and enjoys taking it on vacation more than any other vehicle we have owned. So I would say inside she really likes it and all it's features.
As far as a diesel goes, only buy one if you just HAVE to have one. It is neither practical nor logical in short run, low Mileage applications. Will it work? Oh probably.. but the potential for issues is higher if you don't get it out on the highway reasonably often....
But if you travel long trips like we do (Appx 3500 miles 2=3 times a year..) It really can't be beat and we are very happy....
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Re: EcoDiesel for the Wife as a Daily Driver?

My wife uses our 2011 Subaru Outback for the daily driver. Typical trips are in town 3 to 10 miles with the occasional 8 mile highway trip. 20 to 22 MPG average (gasoline). About 5,000 miles of this each year on the Outback.

We save the EcoDiesel for long trips in the 60 to 600 mile range. We do about 10,000 miles a year on the EcoDiesel in this fashion, which lines up perfectly with the maintenance intervals. 26 to 29+ MPG average, depending on time of year, speed, headwinds, etc.

A daily driver is much more likely to get munched in some fashion, as well, so we use the less expensive vehicle for that.

If cost isn't an issue, then I'd say get an EcoDiesel for the daily driver. We don't use it as our daily driver, but we're cost sensitive at this stage in our lives.

As I see it, no matter the use type, there are three big reasons to get the EcoDiesel:
1) Interior comfort of the JGC model (common across most Grand Cherokee trims)
2) Long range per tank with fewer fuel stops (unique to EcoDiesel)
3) Sturdier axles and transmission (common to Hemi and EcoDiesel Grand Cherokees)
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Re: EcoDiesel for the Wife as a Daily Driver?

Save your money and get her the V6. I love my diesel but your wife doesn't need that.
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Re: EcoDiesel for the Wife as a Daily Driver?

i have a co-worker that has the same year GC laredo with the v6 (different transfer case and no limited slip differential). we both have the same commute to work since we live in the same subdivision. it is approximately 3 miles one way and not much starting and stopping in between. the only difference is i let ours warm up around 10 minutes in the morning before taking off (alot of cold mornings living at 8000 feet!) and she doesn't. we are both making the same mpg average. the big difference is when we take longer trips and then the diesel shows its mpg ability. i can't speak for problems as ours only has around 2300 miles on it. so far so good! i wouldn't trade ours for a gasser but either one would be a good choice!
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Re: EcoDiesel for the Wife as a Daily Driver?

Short tripping is not a diesels friend like everyone else said. Diesels take longer to warm up, mileage sucks until they're at full operating temp.
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Re: EcoDiesel for the Wife as a Daily Driver?

I disagree, u will use more diesel any day than a petrol, warmed up or not.
The diesel need a good run every now and then to clean the DPF but if not the car will also do it manually itself. I drive 10k each way to and from work and never had an issue.
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