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Re: Ecodiesel specific PID's?

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Also, for we NA EcoDiesel owners, I think a lot of us have been missing out on the DPF % capacity PID that our Antipodean friends have been using to track their DPF Failgen issues. Thanks goes to Steve1307.

This Torque PID works well on NA EcoDiesels.

PID: 018B
Long Name: DPF Capacity
Short Name: DPF %
Minimum value: 0
Maximum value: 100
Scale Factor: 1x
Unit Type: %
Equation: (C*100)/255
A few notes: apparently the reading does *not* drop during a regen, because the system stops measuring the pressure diff while the regen is in process. Instead, what will happen is the value will instantaneously change the moment the regen is complete. For example, mine dropped from 100% to 9.4% in one second after not budging from 100% during the 12.5 minutes of the regen (regen mode as determined by the characteristic CAT/EGR/DPF temp excursion). Also, for those of you with ScanGauges, you can probably convert this to an XGauge code if you want.

I'm experimenting to see if some of the other PIDs will give engine hours, turbo actual boost, etc.
Hi,
I tried this PID on on my RAM 1500 EcoD and it showed 100. I'm pretty sure it isn't really 100%, so maybe the RAM needs some different tweaks.
Thanks for all y'all's work on this.

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Re: Ecodiesel specific PID's?

It does on the jeep as well. Mine went from 65% where it began regen, then jumped to 100. After regen it dropped to 9%
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Re: Ecodiesel specific PID's?

I did get the folks at scan gauge to send me a test unit (scan gauge 2)for the 2015 jeep/Eco diesel. They are sending along a data logger as well to verify if the PID's that were programmed function as intended. This is what "special PIDs" I am getting with the unit:

STM - Percentage of Soot Mass (%)

FRP - Fuel Rail Pressure (1000's of PSI)

DSR - Distance since last Regeneration (Miles)

ACP - VGT Actuatior Commanded Postiion (%)

IDE - Inlet DPF Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor (Degrees Fahrenheit)

TNR - Total Number of Started Regenerations (Count)

MAT - Intake Manifold Air Temperature (Degrees Fahrenheit)

MTR - Mean Temperature Value of the Last Regenerations (Degrees Fahrenheit)

OPC - Outlet PreCat Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor (Degrees Fahrenehit)

RGN - Regeneration Active (On/Off)

C11 - Catalyst Temperature (Degrees Fahrenheit)

EOT - Engine Oil Temperature

EG1 - Exhaust Gas Temperature 1 (Degrees Fahrenheit)

EG2 - Exhaust Gas Temperature 2 (Degrees Fahrenheit)

EG3 - Exhaust Gas Temperature 3 (Degrees Fahrenheit)

I'll let you all know how they work after receiving the unit on Saturday.
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Re: Ecodiesel specific PID's?

Great! anxious to see! Keep us posted plz...
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Ecodiesel specific PID's?

Do you guys know what the fuel rate unit of measure is? Is it Liters/minute or Liters/meter? Pulling a quad trailer today I was getting about 16 on the gauge in torque. It doesn't make sense to me.
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Re: Ecodiesel specific PID's?

Litres per 100 kilometres?
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Re: Ecodiesel specific PID's?

That would make more sense. Just wish the units were more clear.
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Re: Ecodiesel specific PID's?

I tried these PIDs this week it started at 12% and after 4 days of 40 mile round trip commutes non freeway it was up to 69% then within about a minute on the freeway jumped to 100% and regen for about a minute then stayed at 100% for about 5 minutes without regen then another regen for about 10 minutes and once that was done dropped to 9.6% on my '15 eco
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I tried these PIDs this week it started at 12% and after 4 days of 40 mile round trip commutes non freeway it was up to 69% then within about a minute on the freeway jumped to 100% and regen for about a minute then stayed at 100% for about 5 minutes without regen then another regen for about 10 minutes and once that was done dropped to 9.6% on my '15 eco

That's how it works for all of us. I did see something interesting (to me) today that I wasn't aware of. I pulled a trailer loaded with four-wheelers about 400 miles round trip today and found that while the engine is loaded to around 75-80% the post turbo and DPF temps hover around 950 (DPF) and 1100 degrees (post turbo). This was while driving on the interstate at 74mph. This in turn allowed the soot meter hold its "plugged percentage" for most of the trip on the freeway. The system must burn off soot automatically without having to go into a stage 2 regen or without any real intervention at all. As soon as I hit a two lane highway traveling at 60mph the soot meter started to clime like normal. Most of you may already be aware of this, but I thought it was pretty interesting.
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Hi,
I tried this PID on on my RAM 1500 EcoD and it showed 100. I'm pretty sure it isn't really 100%, so maybe the RAM needs some different tweaks.
Thanks for all y'all's work on this.
Mine just shows 100% all the time on my RAM EcoD. I drove for over 25 miles and it never changed. I monitored the CAT temp and it never went over 700F.

Another member on the RAM1500 diesel forum says it works on his '14 EcoD.

I'm puzzled.
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Re: Ecodiesel specific PID's?

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Mine just shows 100% all the time on my RAM EcoD. I drove for over 25 miles and it never changed. I monitored the CAT temp and it never went over 700F.

Another member on the RAM1500 diesel forum says it works on his '14 EcoD.

I'm puzzled.
It works. I wasn't patient enough, I guess.
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Re: Ecodiesel specific PID's?

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That's how it works for all of us. I did see something interesting (to me) today that I wasn't aware of. I pulled a trailer loaded with four-wheelers about 400 miles round trip today and found that while the engine is loaded to around 75-80% the post turbo and DPF temps hover around 950 (DPF) and 1100 degrees (post turbo). This was while driving on the interstate at 74mph. This in turn allowed the soot meter hold its "plugged percentage" for most of the trip on the freeway. The system must burn off soot automatically without having to go into a stage 2 regen or without any real intervention at all. As soon as I hit a two lane highway traveling at 60mph the soot meter started to clime like normal. Most of you may already be aware of this, but I thought it was pretty interesting.
That's called passive regen. When towing, EGT's are high enough to burn off soot at around the same rate as it's being made. Happens when I'm towing the travel trailer but not as much when I'm towing the boat with less frontal area. I haven't towed the trailer this season yet, but I expect the soot percentage to drop after pulling at highway speeds over a mountain pass. I've seen the cat temp break 1,000F pulling the trailer over Stevens Pass.
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