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Re: Ecodiesel specific PID's?

Here is a list of stock guages that I use on mine, that seem to be working:
EGT bank 1, sensor 1
Trans. temp. method 1
Voltage (OBD adapter)
Exhaust pressure
Engine oil temp.
CAT temp. bank 1, sensor 1

And here are the custom ones (plus the 2 boost ones I listed a few posts above )
PID: 018B
Long Name: DPF Capacity
Short Name: DPF %
Minimum value: 0
Maximum value: 100
Scale Factor: 1x
Unit Type: %
Equation: (C*100)/255

PID: 018B
Long Name: DPF Regen Mode
Short Name: DPF Mode
Minimum value: 0
Maximum value: 3
Scale Factor: 1x
Unit Type: mode
Equation: ({B:0}<1)+{B:1}

PID: 016d
Long Name: Fuel rail temp
Short Name: Fuel T
Minimum value: -40
Maximum value: 215
Scale Factor: 1x
Unit Type: F
Equation: (F-40)*1.8+32

PID: 016d
Long Name: Fuel rail pressure
Short Name: Fuel P
Minimum value: 0
Maximum value: 6000
Scale Factor: 1x
Unit Type: kPa
Equation: ((D*256)+E)*10

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Re: Ecodiesel specific PID's?

Similar to my boost I mention on an above post, I created a altitude compensated guage for the exhaust backpressure, since the stock one was also reading wrong by -3.5 psi due to my 6800' altitude:

PID: 0173
Long Name: Exhaust Press
Short Name: Exh P
Minimum value: 0
Maximum value: 25
Scale Factor: 1x
Unit Type: kPa
Equation: ((B*256)+C)/100-[0133]
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Re: Ecodiesel specific PID's?

Is there an intake air temp PID for maybe at the MAF and then post turbo? Maybe even after intercooler. I have the CACT but is that pre or post turbo?

I am just about to fit a pretty large intercooler (Aussie build PWR one) and have fitted CB Engineering intercooler pipes. So I wanted to log through torque hopefully intake temps pre turbo, so I guess ambient, then I guess my only option may be at intake manifold as I know there is nothing pre cooler. There is an intake temp option on torque but it is not lit up green so not sure it actually works. I just basically want to see how the new intercooler is performing. Granted I am only doing it in half as I don't have data from pre fitting cooler and cooler pipes but I just want to know how it is performing preferably without adding thermocouples into the air intake and hooking up my meter as it is only real time and not logged.
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Re: Ecodiesel specific PID's?

Nice looking intercooler!

I think the CACT is post turbo, after the intercooler, so its a useful one to see if your new intercooler is working any better (cooler) than the stock one. My CACT runs fairly cool, around 80F even when working it hard and the EGT hits 1100F for extended hill climbs. I think when the turbo gets that hot is when the intercooler becomes important.

I haven't had any hot weather yet to see how the CACT is then.

I added another useful PID, since the stock EGR in torque didnt work:
PID: 0169
Long Name: EGR %
Short Name: EGR
Minimum value: 0
Maximum value: 100
Scale Factor: 1x
Unit Type: %
Equation: (C*100)/255

Attached are 2 pics of guages I use, and can swipe between the 2.
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Re: Ecodiesel specific PID's?

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Nice looking intercooler!

I think the CACT is post turbo, after the intercooler, so its a useful one to see if your new intercooler is working any better (cooler) than the stock one. My CACT runs fairly cool, around 80F even when working it hard and the EGT hits 1100F for extended hill climbs. I think when the turbo gets that hot is when the intercooler becomes important.

I haven't had any hot weather yet to see how the CACT is then.

I added another useful PID, since the stock EGR in torque didnt work:
PID: 0169
Long Name: EGR %
Short Name: EGR
Minimum value: 0
Maximum value: 100
Scale Factor: 1x
Unit Type: %
Equation: (C*100)/255

Attached are 2 pics of guages I use, and can swipe between the 2.
Ok that's good if CACT is at intake manifold but is there a PID for temp at MAF sensor. There is a standard intake temp PID in torque but it doesn't light up green so not sure it works. I haven't tried either yet to be honest but sure there should be a PID to read the MAF temp though?
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Re: Ecodiesel specific PID's?

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There is a standard intake temp PID in torque but it doesn't light up green so not sure it works. I haven't tried either yet to be honest but sure there should be a PID to read the MAF temp though?
I find many of the diesel codes need PID entered to get it working. I havent found any MAF temps but the PID 0168 Intake temp works. It would be good to put the CACT and Intake temp guages side by side and see the diff, I haven't tried that yet.
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Re: Ecodiesel specific PID's?

That's exactly what I am doing now. Will see how it goes and report back.
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Re: Ecodiesel specific PID's?

I took all the diesel PIDs I am using that I mention in this thread above, and made a CSV file so I and others dont need to hand enter them ever again if I get a new phone/tablet. To use, take the attached file, put it into the /sdcard/.torque/extendedpids folder, change the file name you save to have .CSV extension. There are many ways to do this, I emailed it to my phone and tablet and used ES File Explorer to copy from Downloads to the hidden .torque folder, to see that folder you have to hit Menu-Settings-Display Settings-Show hidden files.

To import them in torque you hit Settings-Manage extra PIDs/Sensors, then Menu-Add predefined set, and all you do is choose jeep diesel and you get all the codes. Here is the contents of the attached file with all the custom PIDs I use in the required format:
"Name", "ShortName", "ModeAndPID", "Equation", "Min Value", "Max Value", "Units", "Header"
"Boost","Boost","0170","((B*256)+C)*0.03125-[33]",0,25,"kPa",""
"EGR %","EGR","0169","(C*100)/255",0,100,"%",""
"DPF Capacity","DPF %","018b","(C*100)/255",0,100,"%",""
"DPF Regen Mode","DPF Mode","018b","({B:0}<1)+{B:1}",0,3,"mode",""
"Fuel temp","Fuel T","016d","(F-40)*1.8+32",-10,200,"F",""
"Fuel pressure EcoD","Fuel P","016d","((D*256)+E)*10",0,30000,"kPa",""
"Exhaust Press EcoD","Exh P","0173","((B*256)+C)/100-[33]",0,25,"kPa",""
"Avg regen time","AVG T","018b","(D*256)+E",0,65535,"Min",""
"Avg regen dist","AVG D","018b","(F*256)+G",0,65535,"Km",""
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Re: Ecodiesel specific PID's?

I figured out a lot more PIDs that are for the diesel, and after a weekend of testing appears these are also working PIDs (except never had a NOX warning yet

"DEF Level","DEF Level","0185","(F*100)/255",0,100,"%","Auto"
"DPF: Pressure Gradient","DPF Drop","017A","(B*256+C)*0.1",-25,25,"kPa","Auto"
"DPF: Inlet Pressure","DPF In P","017A","(C*256+D)*0.1",0,25,"kPa","Auto"
"DPF: Outlet Pressure","DPF Out P","017A","(E*256+F)*0.1",0,25,"kPa","Auto"
"EGT: Cat Inlet","EGT Cat In","0178","((((B*256+C)*0.1)-40)*1.8)+32",0,12000,"F","Auto"
"EGT: Cat Outlet","EGT Cat Out","0178","((((D*256+E)*0.1)-40)*1.8)+32",0,12000,"F","Auto"
"EGT: DPF Outlet","EGT DPF Out","0178","((((F*256+G)*0.1)-40)*1.8)+32",0,12000,"F","Auto"
"NOX Sensor 1: Pre-CAT","NOX Sen 1","0183","(B*256+C)",0,65535,"ppm","Auto"
"NOX Sensor 2: Post-CAT","NOX Sen 2","0183","(D*256+E)",0,65535,"ppm","Auto"
"Run Time w NOX Warn","RTwNW","0185","(G*(256^3)+H*(256^2)+I*256+J )/60",0,500,"Min","Auto"
"Turbo: VGT Position","VGT Pos","0171","(B*100)/255",0,100,"%","Auto"
"Turbo: Compressor Inlet Temp","Turbo CIT","0175","(B-40)*1.8+32",0,220,"F","Auto"
"Engine: Run Time","Eng Run Time","017F","(B*(256^3)+C*(256^2)+D*256+E)/3600",0,500,"Hours","Auto"
"Engine: Idle Time","Eng Idle Time","017F","(F*(256^3)+G*(256^2)+H*256+I)/3600",0,500,"Hours","Auto"

So I attached a new CSV with all these to save typing them in. An interesting thing I found, we share almost all of these with all the Dodge trucks: 1500, 2500, 3500 even with the 6.7L Cummins. Way to go Chrysler!
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Re: Ecodiesel specific PID's?

Is the turbo compressor inlet temp the same as intake air temp? I assume the turbo compressor inlet temp would be maf sensor? Are they the same reading?
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Re: Ecodiesel specific PID's?

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Is the turbo compressor inlet temp the same as intake air temp? I assume the turbo compressor inlet temp would be maf sensor? Are they the same reading?
I have not compared all those to the stock guages, but included them since they have better descriptions of locations. There is not a reading from the MAF sensor I have found but with so many I bet one is close. What did you find if you put the CACT and Intake temp guages side by side?

Torque doesn't say what PID are used on the built in ones.
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Re: Ecodiesel specific PID's?

Thanks for your help Mr Wizard, where did you get the extra PID's from ?? Scanguage X Gauges ???

The reason I ask is that the DPF Regen On/Off that is floated around for a while does not work on our Aussie Export models, Scan Gauge have a X gauge for DPF Regen but I dont know how to convert it. I an going to try out your other PIDs tonight.

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