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Re: EcoDiesel Which Oil Will You Use

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I would use the Kendall Euro GT-1 5W30 that does meets Chrysler spec. for the 3.0 Does anyone know where to get this Kendall motor oil?
You can find it here.

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That would be intensely stupid, given that the Chrysler obviously knows this is for an EcoDiesel and printed the VIN of my Jeep on the paper. Why would Chrysler directly send a single coupon in a letter that they had no intention of honoring? It's not like this was something I found in a flyer... there was nothing else in the mailing except this "y u no let dealer change ur oil, owner?!!!1!" invitation + single coupon. Well, that, and the fact they have done this twice now.

Yes, the fine print said something about limiting the amount of oil to like 12 quarts or whatever, but that's irrelevant because the EcoDiesel only takes 7.6 or 7.7 L of oil, depending on how metric you feel today.
Well thats 12 courts at approximately 3 dollars or less per court for a Cummins vs 9 to 10 dollars a quart for a Ecodiesel.... Plus most any oil Jockey can change the oil on a Cummins, but usually the Eco diesels are reserved for actual higher-level service techs.

I get those things in the mail all the time from my dealer but that's just because they know I have a Diesel. There are not many dealers who will change the oil on an EcoDiesel for less than a hundred bucks.....
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Re: EcoDiesel Which Oil Will You Use

No Penzoil downunder but we have Penrite:

ENVIRO + C3 5W-30 (Full Synthetic) <span class="label label-danger">New</span>

They do a Diesel fuel additive for DPF's too.

DPF CLEANER <span class="label label-danger">New</span>
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Re: EcoDiesel Which Oil Will You Use

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There are not many dealers who will change the oil on an EcoDiesel for less than a hundred bucks.....
Or in my case, when they do, they do it with the wrong oil.
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I get those things in the mail all the time from my dealer but that's just because they know I have a Diesel.
So, you get coupons for cheap oil changes specifically for your vehicle sent to you and they have refused to honor them when you presented the coupon? Or are you like me and just haven't tested it out because there's no way you'll let them touch your vehicle?
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Re: EcoDiesel Which Oil Will You Use

Yes I do, and the are the usual semi generic Mopar flyer with my dealers name imprinted on them. The problem is they (JNAP and FCA) have not kept their marketing/service literature up to date with the new family of Eco Diesels they are now selling. It comes from my dealer as a Chrysler Dodge Jeep service specials flyer for diesels and advertises a 49.95-69.95 Diesel oil changes, (NOT EcoDiesel mind you...) but the tip off is it says 12 qts maximum which is the Cummins capacity.

What the heck... take it in and demand they do it... Who knows, maybe they might! But my bet is they won't, and if they do, they will let you know that offer is not for this vehicle and this will be the last time... but you will still continue to get the flyers. I just junk em when I get them.

And no I haven't even taken them into them to see if they will honor them. An Ecodiesel oil change is 100.00-120.00 at my dealer...( I've already paid it once.) and all parts and oil prices support this.... They showed me the Euro L oil and the Mopar cartridge filter before they started and said this is a 3 hour ( Not continuous, but please allow..) job and only our Diesel Techs are allowed to do this, not our 30 min oil change kids. Wasn't cheap but made me feel like they knew something about the process and every time it is there it gets any open service flashes without being asked or prompted. My dealer ain't the best, but he ain't the worst either....!
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I just junk em when I get them.
Maybe the dealer will turn around and stick it on Chrysler. If you're using the dealer oil change service anyway what do you have to lose by trying your coupon? I would already be fighting an uphill battle because I don't want the service. However, maybe Chrysler would fix their glitch if enough dealers were billing them for the discounts off normal price.

Hell, I remember the finance guy trying to sell me an oil change package for the EcoDiesel with $40 changes. I just chuckled... not going there.
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Re: EcoDiesel Which Oil Will You Use

I've just read through all of this. Because up until now I was only considering a 5.7 HEMI for my new Grand Cherokee purchase in a couple of months. But I really like the 3.0 Diesel as well. I lot of the dealers here have several 2014 Diesel models in stock, and they'll likely deal on them. But you guys are scaring me with all of this complex oil change stuff!

I've always done my own oil changes on my vehicles since I started driving in the late 60's, and would like to continue to do so. This regardless of what engine I go with. I'm curious with the 3.0 Diesel, if you did perform your own oil changes, and ran into a severe internal problem, if it would cause issues with the warranty? Do you save the receipts for the oil, so you could prove what you put in the crankcase and when? I must admit, I've never read the specs. on the back of an oil bottle in my life. If I get this new Diesel, it looks like I'm going to have to start!

I like the idea of the Eco Diesel, but I have to be honest, their complexity scares me. As does the extremely high cost of oil and filters. I'm retired and don't drive more than 6,000 miles a year. I also live in the desert southwest. I'm wondering if the DEF fluid would go rancid sitting in a tank in a 100+ degree garage 5 months out of the year? Sorry about all the pesky questions, but this is going to be a huge investment for me.

Another thing I've wondered about. Has anyone done a cost analysis including oil change costs, (expensive oil + a lot of it), DEF Fluid, higher filter costs, (both oil & fuel (2), along with the higher cost of diesel fuel as opposed to 87 Octane..... Against the added fuel economy of the Eco Diesel? I've wondered how it would wash out? Especially if you're not a high mileage driver like myself.
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I've just read through all of this. Because up until now I was only considering a 5.7 HEMI for my new Grand Cherokee purchase in a couple of months. But I really like the 3.0 Diesel as well. I lot of the dealers here have several 2014 Diesel models in stock, and they'll likely deal on them. But you guys are scaring me with all of this complex oil change stuff!

I've always done my own oil changes on my vehicles since I started driving in the late 60's, and would like to continue to do so. This regardless of what engine I go with. I'm curious with the 3.0 Diesel, if you did perform your own oil changes, and ran into a severe internal problem, if it would cause issues with the warranty? Do you save the receipts for the oil, so you could prove what you put in the crankcase and when? I must admit, I've never read the specs. on the back of an oil bottle in my life. If I get this new Diesel, it looks like I'm going to have to start!

I like the idea of the Eco Diesel, but I have to be honest, their complexity scares me. As does the extremely high cost of oil and filters. I'm retired and don't drive more than 6,000 miles a year. I also live in the desert southwest. I'm wondering if the DEF fluid would go rancid sitting in a tank in a 100+ degree garage 5 months out of the year? Sorry about all the pesky questions, but this is going to be a huge investment for me.

Another thing I've wondered about. Has anyone done a cost analysis including oil change costs, (expensive oil + a lot of it), DEF Fluid, higher filter costs, (both oil & fuel (2), along with the higher cost of diesel fuel as opposed to 87 Octane..... Against the added fuel economy of the Eco Diesel? I've wondered how it would wash out? Especially if you're not a high mileage driver like myself.
I dont have the diesel but same as the 5.7 save your oil riecpts and keep a log when you change the oil. Same as any of the engines if you cause damage to the engine by working on it the warranty will not cover it. I change my own also.

As far as money concerning fuel for 5.7 vs diesel that is going to be very dependant on where you live. Diesel vs gas prices can be very different all over the country. Where i live diesel runs near a dollar a gallon more than gas in a situation like that there isnt a financial fuel case for buying the diesel you are buying it because you want it for other reasons. There was a guy on here the other day though that said he was in southern California and diesel and gas were about the same price, in a situation like that you will see an appriciable fuel cost savings with the diesel. You really have to run your own numbers for your own area concering gas vs diesel it can be very different depending on where you are located.

Disel oilchanges are more in cost than gas changes but you probably save some doing it yourself, change intervals are 10k miles now for both so you are not changing oil as much as we use to when we were brain washed with the 3000 mile thing. Hemi has the spark plug change at 100k which is about $300 so that off sets a little of it.

Test drive them both and run some diesel vs gas numbers for your area to see if that will be a factor or not. Good luck shopping
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Re: EcoDiesel Which Oil Will You Use

I just checked on line, and by me Diesel currently runs just a couple cents LESS a gallon than Premium........ For now. Fuel prices have been pretty goofy the last couple of months. When 87 Octane was around $3.50 a gallon, I saw Diesel going for 75 cents more a gallon. So it really varies a lot.

I have to admit, I WANT the Diesel far more than I NEED it. I had a Volkswagen Rabbit Diesel back in 1979 that delivered an honest 50 MPG. It only had 48 H.P. and was slow as Molasses. But it ran like the wind. The most dependable vehicle I ever owned. And one of the cheapest to run and maintain. That is what is luring me back to buy Diesel again.

The only thing is now they are far more complex. Turbos, intercoolers, DEF injection, and probably a dozen things I'm forgetting. But if I go Diesel with this new Jeep Grand Cherokee and it delivers the same dependability as my Rabbit Diesel did, I'll be a very happy motorist! I'm just scared, that's all. Hell, I don't even know how to take the damn engine cover off one!
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I just checked on line, and by me Diesel currently runs just a couple cents LESS a gallon than Premium........ For now. Fuel prices have been pretty goofy the last couple of months. When 87 Octane was around $3.50 a gallon, I saw Diesel going for 75 cents more a gallon. So it really varies a lot.

I have to admit, I WANT the Diesel far more than I NEED it. I had a Volkswagen Rabbit Diesel back in 1979 that delivered an honest 50 MPG. It only had 48 H.P. and was slow as Molasses. But it ran like the wind. The most dependable vehicle I ever owned. And one of the cheapest to run and maintain. That is what is luring me back to buy Diesel again.

The only thing is now they are far more complex. Turbos, intercoolers, DEF injection, and probably a dozen things I'm forgetting. But if I go Diesel with this new Jeep Grand Cherokee and it delivers the same dependability as my Rabbit Diesel did, I'll be a very happy motorist! I'm just scared, that's all. Hell, I don't even know how to take the damn engine cover off one!

Well As I have posted in other topics..I didn't NEED one either. I WANTED one. Does it have quirks? yes... Can it be expensive to maintain? Potentially...But it isn't cheap to start with and you get quite a bit for your money VS it's competition. There is not a better vehicle on the road for road trips and the mileage is great ! You really can change the oil yourself so that is 80.00 appx with Amazon and you can go 10K miles. Save your receipts and all is well. if not pay a dealer 125.00 and all is well for another year plus...Highly unlikely you would ever have an oil related failure...
Get DOM's plate as a protector and no more DEF injector worries.
It sounds like you are retired or close to it..if you have time you can manage all these things easily...
If you just want no problems and plain vanilla then get a Honda CR-V and life is simple, but I'm at a point that I want this interesting vehicle and I'm willing to work with it's quirks to get the benefits of a go any where in any weather SUV at 25+ MPG and pull my boat etc. So far the positives vastly outweigh the negatives for me, and if I have it 5-6 years and get what I want out of it, I'll take my higher resale value to another one like it or something newer that is better....
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if not pay a dealer 125.00 and all is well for another year plus
Just in case anyone might not know, the diesel supplement indicates "Under no circumstances should oil change intervals exceed 10,000 miles (16,000 km) or twelve months, whichever comes first."

So, not a "year plus". Of course, it might be substantially less than that if you're running biodiesel blend and have to de-rate, or if your oil life algorithm says your oil is dead.
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