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Re: EGR Blanking Plate, DPF Delete Kit and Intercooler with Piping Available

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From what i've seen their products are decent, the LS1 turbo kits are a copy of a hand fabbed kit, then mass produced in overseas... China? However it looks like they went to some effort to test fit and QA everything before selling it to customers.

CXracing sells Garrett copy turbochargers too (I think) and they perform beyond the expectations of a chinese copy turbo.

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Re: EGR Blanking Plate, DPF Delete Kit and Intercooler with Piping Available

I make the WK2 performance components. I prefer to make my exhaust components out of 304 SS as they will never rust and last a lifetime. I am not a fan of rust. I have been asked about making some pipes from aluminized steel and currently working on a price for those.
You will need to run the appropriate tuning to run the Off road pipe. I have been running the GDE tune for quite a while and its awesome. Great power and fuel economy, I would like more as its nowhere near as fast as my WK, but I am working on some products that will hopefully catch up.
Ah, the cummins comparison, I am not a fan of responding to this statement. But I have had a rough moring so, if we could sell a fifth of the amount of parts as they sell for the cummins it would be a whole different story, but I am afraid that will never be the case. Also, I would like to see a 2014 Cummins DPF delete pipe in 304 SS and compare prices as well.
The off road pipe sounds very close to stock, you will hear a little more turbo whistle and a slightly louder exhaust note, but it is very minimal if you keep the stock rear exhaust. Of the ones I have sold so far I have not heard anything, but positive experiences with the sound and performance.
I was looking at the AFE rear exhaust kit and was interested in it until I found the best material you can get is 409. It won’t stay that shiny for long. I am working on a 2.5” cat back exhaust kit all in 304 stainless.
The intercooler kit I sell replaces the stock intercooler with a 3” intercooler core. I redo route the intercooler piping to reduce the length of pipe by over 2 feet. This alone helps reduce turbo spool and increase throttle response. The larger intercooler does reduce EGTs and provide reduce turbo spool. I will be adding a piping kit to the website that will use the stock intercooler, but use my routing setup. I should have that up shortly. It does make a very noticeable difference in performance. I am trying to keep this basic kit as cost effective as possible. I am working on a stage 2 intercooler kit that will use a larger intercooler core and be similar to the Murchison core. I didn’t even know they were making one. I should have mine done shortly and start testing soon, but I based on current experience it’s not really going to offer much added performance over the basic kit with the stock turbo.
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Re: EGR Blanking Plate, DPF Delete Kit and Intercooler with Piping Available

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Re: EGR Blanking Plate, DPF Delete Kit and Intercooler with Piping Available

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I make the WK2 performance components. I prefer to make my exhaust components out of 304 SS as they will never rust and last a lifetime. I am not a fan of rust. I have been asked about making some pipes from aluminized steel and currently working on a price for those.
You will need to run the appropriate tuning to run the Off road pipe. I have been running the GDE tune for quite a while and its awesome. Great power and fuel economy, I would like more as its nowhere near as fast as my WK, but I am working on some products that will hopefully catch up.
Ah, the cummins comparison, I am not a fan of responding to this statement. But I have had a rough moring so, if we could sell a fifth of the amount of parts as they sell for the cummins it would be a whole different story, but I am afraid that will never be the case. Also, I would like to see a 2014 Cummins DPF delete pipe in 304 SS and compare prices as well.
The off road pipe sounds very close to stock, you will hear a little more turbo whistle and a slightly louder exhaust note, but it is very minimal if you keep the stock rear exhaust. Of the ones I have sold so far I have not heard anything, but positive experiences with the sound and performance.
I was looking at the AFE rear exhaust kit and was interested in it until I found the best material you can get is 409. It won’t stay that shiny for long. I am working on a 2.5” cat back exhaust kit all in 304 stainless.
The intercooler kit I sell replaces the stock intercooler with a 3” intercooler core. I redo route the intercooler piping to reduce the length of pipe by over 2 feet. This alone helps reduce turbo spool and increase throttle response. The larger intercooler does reduce EGTs and provide reduce turbo spool. I will be adding a piping kit to the website that will use the stock intercooler, but use my routing setup. I should have that up shortly. It does make a very noticeable difference in performance. I am trying to keep this basic kit as cost effective as possible. I am working on a stage 2 intercooler kit that will use a larger intercooler core and be similar to the Murchison core. I didn’t even know they were making one. I should have mine done shortly and start testing soon, but I based on current experience it’s not really going to offer much added performance over the basic kit with the stock turbo.
I have had a chance to look at the pipe manufactured by CB. I have experienced exhaust components from Silverline and MBRP. I can say....Hands Down....CB's offering far surpasses what I've experienced in the past. The welds, heavy gauge 304 stainless pipe, flanges and V-Clamps set this apart from others. One could not begin to compare an aluminized delete pipe for what this kit is. This is truly a value for the price! It will easily outlive the life of the vehicle. I think who ever decides to pursue this route....will be more than happy with what they've purchased.









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I have sent a couple of emails I am after the intake pipes to fit the standard intercooler as soon as their ready.

I am holding off on my tune and exhaust as I will do everything at once.
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I have sent a couple of emails I am after the intake pipes to fit the standard intercooler as soon as their ready.

I am holding off on my tune and exhaust as I will do everything at once.
I think you'll be pleased with all of CB's products. My buddy is doing the delete...thus I was able to snap some pictures...and he's very happy with everything. I've done pickup exhaust swaps....and this kit really seems to have better engineering and is built better than what I've seen for pickups.

Good Luck......post your experience and results when you can. If I decide to do these swaps...I'm going to wait until the warranty has expired.
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I recently purchased the pipes too and agree that they are top notch. Great fit up and well constructed.
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Re: EGR Blanking Plate, DPF Delete Kit and Intercooler with Piping Available

I want to do it all, but need to make sure I have a tune. since it seems there is distance between CB and GDE (the two manufacturers I would trust). how would one go about this? an extra ecu w/ all deletes, etc., programmed?

planning for a road trip in early spring
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an extra ecu w/ all deletes, etc., programmed?
I don't believe the standard GDE tune (i.e. Hot Tune) will accomplish this based on what GDE has said about it so far.

I suspect that the GDE "Off Road Tuning" option is required, though their site doesn't seem to explain what it includes.
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I don't believe the standard GDE tune (i.e. Hot Tune) will accomplish this based on what GDE has said about it so far.

I suspect that the GDE "Off Road Tuning" option is required, though their site doesn't seem to explain what it includes.
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Re: EGR Blanking Plate, DPF Delete Kit and Intercooler with Piping Available

Post #348 of the green diesel engineering tune.

"For anyone that has had the P249F fault, please contact us via email so that we can make arrangements to get an updated ECU to you with the fix for this.

The "off-road tuning" option is for those people that wish to remove their aftertreatment system from the vehicle. It will work with and with-out the sensors installed and the DEF tank can be removed completely from the vehicle. You can watch your DEF gauge sit at 50% for forever.

We're working on an upgraded single VGT for the EcoDiesels now and have some parts en route. Likely a kit would be available sometime next year after validation has been completed. The biggest downfall to the installation is that removing the turbo requires the engine to be removed from the vehicle. Twins won't fit into the WK's engine bay, there's just no room to do it right and have it packaged correctly and servicable."

And the link: Green Diesel Engineering Tune
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Post #348 of the green diesel engineering tune.
Nice. Someone on this forum is always willing to wade through hundreds of posts to cite the specific one. Thanks.

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The "off-road tuning" option is for those people that wish to remove their aftertreatment system from the vehicle. It will work with and with-out the sensors installed and the DEF tank can be removed completely from the vehicle. You can watch your DEF gauge sit at 50% for forever.
I suppose that would include the DPF, though I wouldn't necessarily consider the DPF to be "aftertreatment" like SCR is. My terminology may not be standard though.

The subsequent question is whether removal of the emissions systems is mandatory with the off road option, or if the DPF and DEF injector can be reattached if one were to wish to do so for whatever reason. You know, in case someone wanted to demonstrate to an interested party what the bottom of the Jeep looked like when it was stock.

How long could the vehicle be operated in that condition with the off road tune, given I presume no regen would ever be triggered?
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