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Re: EGR Blanking Plate, DPF Delete Kit and Intercooler with Piping Available

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Nice. Someone on this forum is always willing to wade through hundreds of posts to cite the specific one. Thanks.


I suppose that would include the DPF, though I wouldn't necessarily consider the DPF to be "aftertreatment" like SCR is. My terminology may not be standard though.

The subsequent question is whether removal of the emissions systems is mandatory with the off road option, or if the DPF and DEF injector can be reattached if one were to wish to do so for whatever reason. You know, in case someone wanted to demonstrate to an interested party what the bottom of the Jeep looked like when it was stock.

How long could the vehicle be operated in that condition with the off road tune, given I presume no regen would ever be triggered?
Your question is one I had myself. I have purchased the off road tune but have not yet installed the computer. I did not plan on deleting all of the equipment yet, just wanted to have the ability to do so later. From my understanding, if I leave the sensors installed, they will function as normal and operate the emissions system as need be, with the exception of shutting off the EGR. Then if I removed the sensors, no check engine light would be triggered and the Jeep wouldn't try to regen. I plan on calling next week to verify before proceeding, however, and I'll post up what I learn. They did say that if an OBD II reader was connected, all sensors would report back as ready and functioning correctly.

See my post below.

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Re: EGR Blanking Plate, DPF Delete Kit and Intercooler with Piping Available

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Nice. Someone on this forum is always willing to wade through hundreds of posts to cite the specific one. Thanks.


I suppose that would include the DPF, though I wouldn't necessarily consider the DPF to be "aftertreatment" like SCR is. My terminology may not be standard though.

The subsequent question is whether removal of the emissions systems is mandatory with the off road option, or if the DPF and DEF injector can be reattached if one were to wish to do so for whatever reason. You know, in case someone wanted to demonstrate to an interested party what the bottom of the Jeep looked like when it was stock.

How long could the vehicle be operated in that condition with the off road tune, given I presume no regen would ever be triggered?
I think you would run into an issue with the DPF loading up or clogging with soot if you were to leave it in place and run an off road tune. I'm not sure you could have that portion remain active without the remaining package. The CB exhaust system offers ( for a nominal charge) bungs for all the sensors except the DEF injector. and two fluid pipes...so most all of them are there if one should decide to reinstall the entire OEM system. The sensors do not appear to be active when the off road tune is in place.

I'm far from having any expertise in these matters.....just some observations I've made.

Best of luck.....This is a topic that seems to be growing in popularity.
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Re: EGR Blanking Plate, DPF Delete Kit and Intercooler with Piping Available

I have already received a response from GDE. Their off road tune does deactivate all emissions equipment and thus they recommend driving no more than 50 miles without removing this equipment from the vehicle.
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I have already received a response from GDE. Their off road tune does deactivate all emissions equipment and thus they recommend driving no more than 50 miles without removing this equipment from the vehicle.
Bummer. I liked the more sophisticated alternative operation you had described where the tune would operate as normal if the sensors were active but disable the operation of the devices if they weren't.

Perhaps another tune vendor will take the hint/feature request.
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Bummer. I liked the more sophisticated alternative operation you had described where the tune would operate as normal if the sensors were active but disable the operation of the devices if they weren't.

Perhaps another tune vendor will take the hint/feature request.
I just don't see how you'd be able to operate the vehicle with all of the stuff still intact, namely the particulate filter. With the sensors off its not reading when it's supposed to regen so wouldn't it just clog up?

That being said I have seen people keep the DPF housing and hollow it out and run a straight pipe through it. I don't know how you'd be able to spoof the DEF aspects like that though.
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I just don't see how you'd be able to operate the vehicle with all of the stuff still intact
Ideally the system would detect if the emissions systems were in place and respond accordingly by activating the appropriate emissions systems code. All sorts of delicious ways this sanity check could be performed (e.g. "are the relevant sensors present?", "are plausible values being returned from relevant sensors?"). If it infers that the systems are not present on the vehicle then operation would simply jump to the applicable off-road tuning.
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Ordered CB-Engineering pipes and GDE tune. Hope to have everything in the next week or two.
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Ordered CB-Engineering pipes and GDE tune. Hope to have everything in the next week or two.
I think you'll be extremely pleased with the products and results. Absolutely top notch companies as far as I'm concerned.
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I think you'll be extremely pleased with the products and results. Absolutely top notch companies as far as I'm concerned.
I've had GDE Hot Tune for a few months now. Very happy with it! Glad to find out the offroad tune is only a $150 charge for an ECU already tuned by GDE!!
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Re: EGR Blanking Plate, DPF Delete Kit and Intercooler with Piping Available

Sounds like a great deal........The CB set up is very impressive. The toughest part is the "U band" that connects catalytic convertor to a short elbow off of the turbo.....Or so I've heard On the RAM 1500...it can be reached through the wheel well. On the GC......well....laying on top of the passenger side fender / engine bay........with a very, very long screw driver will eventually get the job done.

Best of luck....Post your impressions after you do your upgrade.
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For all those Aussie's thinking of buying CB products I spoke to Chris and he has split the intercooler and pipes so you can order seperately and be under the $1000 threshold.

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Re: EGR Blanking Plate, DPF Delete Kit and Intercooler with Piping Available

I went with the Murchison intercooler (it is massive) and it arrived the other day. Nice piece of gear from PWR. I just ordered the intercooler pipes from CB though. Would be nice to get the DPF delete pipe but will leave it for now.
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