Go Back   Jeep Garage - Jeep Forum > Jeep Platform Discussion > Grand Cherokee - WK2 - > 2014+ Jeep Grand Cherokee Ecodiesel 3.0

Join Jeep Garage Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
  #49  
Old 04-05-2014, 03:02 PM
Rumline's Avatar
Premium Member
My Jeep: 2014 3.0L WK2
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 256
Thanks: 65
Thanked 31 Times in 22 Posts
Rep Power: 1352
Rumline has a reputation beyond reputeRumline has a reputation beyond reputeRumline has a reputation beyond reputeRumline has a reputation beyond reputeRumline has a reputation beyond reputeRumline has a reputation beyond repute
If there is a distinct pattern pre-mandatory-regen, theoretically we could write either a plugin or standalone app that could monitor the ODBII parameters and issue a warning. I've never written software for Android but I'd be happy to help however I can if/when I ever get my diesel.
__________________

__________________

2014 Overland Ecodiesel 4x4 - Adv. Tech - ORA2

Reply With Quote
  #50  
Old 04-05-2014, 03:18 PM
*sox*'s Avatar
Italien MOPAR Guy :-)

 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Basel / Switzerland
Posts: 1,851
Thanks: 86
Thanked 74 Times in 61 Posts
Rep Power: 570907
*sox* has a reputation beyond repute*sox* has a reputation beyond repute*sox* has a reputation beyond repute*sox* has a reputation beyond repute*sox* has a reputation beyond repute*sox* has a reputation beyond repute*sox* has a reputation beyond repute*sox* has a reputation beyond repute*sox* has a reputation beyond repute*sox* has a reputation beyond repute*sox* has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via MSN to *sox* Send a message via Skype™ to *sox*
You need a obd app that you see the cats temp.

Because on the regeneration the cats tempereatur go up 700 grad celsius for burning the out the dpf, normale for the diesel are 300-400
__________________

__________________
All Uconnect Software

www.mydrive.ch

username: mygig@soxag
Password: gasolio

Reply With Quote
  #51  
Old 04-05-2014, 04:01 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 28
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 219
Stbentoak is on a distinguished road
Re: exhaust system regeneration process

Quote:
Originally Posted by ExcursionDiesel View Post
Since all this concern has arisen, I have began watching my EGTs for patterns that indicate the frequency and duration. The other day when mine was trying to regen in town every time I made a short trip, I finally drove on the interstate and the regen finished in 9 miles. I suspect each partial regen burned off some soot. I'll keep watching.
I appreciate this as I do a fair amt of city driving then occasional 20 mile trips and I just want to know if this regen thing is really anything to worry about. If a limp situation happens while my wife is driving it, she will hit the roof as she is usually on an important shopping mission. If my normal style of driving takes care of it then no worries, but if it has me on edge all the time then I may adjust some routes taken...

BTW mine is being built this week Black Summit with Rear seat ent...

Thanks....
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #52  
Old 04-18-2014, 08:39 PM
Premium Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: So. Florida
Posts: 48
Thanks: 5
Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts
Rep Power: 565
adw_tdi is on a distinguished road
Re: exhaust system regeneration process

As of now, I am in LIMP mode. Here is my sad story:

Got the first oil change done a few weeks ago, but the oil life countdown wasn't reset. "No biggie" says the guy with access to this site - I just looked up how to do it and...nuthin. Again and again I tried, and no change. I figured I'd live with it a while and keep trying the reset, and schedule a dealer visit in May as my own schedule was nuts, and again, it's just a countdown.

3 days ago, the CEL goes on, but no message or other notification. I thought that was odd, but as all it was telling me was to get an oil change, I figured there was a counter to the "oil life at 0%", and it was assuming I don't love my really expensive vehicle and was running on black tar.

Yesterday, the "Exhaust Filter getting full, safely drive at highway speeds" popped up. So I did - did about 9 miles at 70mph on the nearest interstate, and then turned around and did it again. While I was doing this, the message popped up twice. I found that incredibly odd.

Today, message still there, so did another 18 mile loop, but this time on another road at 55 mph, with stop lights. I took her out of eco, and enjoyed the torque off the line more than usual. Again, message kept popping up. I figured it HAD to go to a true regen at some point. Alas no. Parked it at Lowes not too far from the house, did some stuff, and went out to go for another drive...all hell broke loose 10 seconds after startup. FILTER FULL, SERVICE ELECTRONIC THROTTLE. Third gear only.

So now it is in the driveway, and I am going out of town on Tuesday. Oh, and Sunday is Easter.

Not pleased at the moment...
__________________
OWN: Overland 4x4 Max Steel/Indigo EcoDiesel with ORAII
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old 04-18-2014, 09:07 PM
SNUKE's Avatar
Premium Member
My Jeep: 2014 3.0L WK2
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Sydney, Aus
Posts: 2,789
Thanks: 66
Thanked 250 Times in 205 Posts
Rep Power: 5456
SNUKE has a reputation beyond reputeSNUKE has a reputation beyond reputeSNUKE has a reputation beyond reputeSNUKE has a reputation beyond reputeSNUKE has a reputation beyond reputeSNUKE has a reputation beyond reputeSNUKE has a reputation beyond reputeSNUKE has a reputation beyond reputeSNUKE has a reputation beyond reputeSNUKE has a reputation beyond reputeSNUKE has a reputation beyond repute
Garage
Re: exhaust system regeneration process

The Oil change reset is extremely important, it is tied to the DPF regen. If the system thinks it has old oil in there, it will react as such.

I would be super pissed at your dealer for failing to do this simple yet extremely important procedure during the service.
Get it towed to the dealer (Jeep Assist) and get them to fix it immediately as it is their fault.
__________________
I'm just want it for the "shorter headlamps".

MY14 GC Limited, 3.0 CRD, Lux II, Granite Crystal, 18" Wheels, Tubular Side Steps.
Could I get my avatar much larger?
Ordered: July 7 2013 Delivered Nov 25th
Reply With Quote
  #54  
Old 04-20-2014, 12:47 AM
*sox*'s Avatar
Italien MOPAR Guy :-)

 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Basel / Switzerland
Posts: 1,851
Thanks: 86
Thanked 74 Times in 61 Posts
Rep Power: 570907
*sox* has a reputation beyond repute*sox* has a reputation beyond repute*sox* has a reputation beyond repute*sox* has a reputation beyond repute*sox* has a reputation beyond repute*sox* has a reputation beyond repute*sox* has a reputation beyond repute*sox* has a reputation beyond repute*sox* has a reputation beyond repute*sox* has a reputation beyond repute*sox* has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via MSN to *sox* Send a message via Skype™ to *sox*
Re: exhaust system regeneration process

Quote:
Originally Posted by adw_tdi View Post
As of now, I am in LIMP mode. Here is my sad story:

Got the first oil change done a few weeks ago, but the oil life countdown wasn't reset. "No biggie" says the guy with access to this site - I just looked up how to do it and...nuthin. Again and again I tried, and no change. I figured I'd live with it a while and keep trying the reset, and schedule a dealer visit in May as my own schedule was nuts, and again, it's just a countdown.

3 days ago, the CEL goes on, but no message or other notification. I thought that was odd, but as all it was telling me was to get an oil change, I figured there was a counter to the "oil life at 0%", and it was assuming I don't love my really expensive vehicle and was running on black tar.

Yesterday, the "Exhaust Filter getting full, safely drive at highway speeds" popped up. So I did - did about 9 miles at 70mph on the nearest interstate, and then turned around and did it again. While I was doing this, the message popped up twice. I found that incredibly odd.

Today, message still there, so did another 18 mile loop, but this time on another road at 55 mph, with stop lights. I took her out of eco, and enjoyed the torque off the line more than usual. Again, message kept popping up. I figured it HAD to go to a true regen at some point. Alas no. Parked it at Lowes not too far from the house, did some stuff, and went out to go for another drive...all hell broke loose 10 seconds after startup. FILTER FULL, SERVICE ELECTRONIC THROTTLE. Third gear only.

So now it is in the driveway, and I am going out of town on Tuesday. Oh, and Sunday is Easter.

Not pleased at the moment...

Which oil you have use?




Gesendet von meinem iPhone mit JeepGarage
__________________
All Uconnect Software

www.mydrive.ch

username: mygig@soxag
Password: gasolio

Reply With Quote
  #55  
Old 04-20-2014, 08:13 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 28
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 219
Stbentoak is on a distinguished road
Re: exhaust system regeneration process

does anyone know what is the most efficient speed and distance to drive is to complete a regeneration quickly and completely? Can you monitor it's completion some how by the EVIC?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #56  
Old 04-20-2014, 01:45 PM
ExcursionDiesel's Avatar
Premium Member
My Jeep: 2014 3.0L WK2
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: W. TN.
Posts: 1,491
Thanks: 4
Thanked 206 Times in 140 Posts
Rep Power: 2841
ExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond repute
Re: exhaust system regeneration process

The best conditions for regen are those that hold the highest steady exhaust temperatures. I get my highest readings (1250 F) on flat ground at 50 mph but anything over 45 mph works.

The EVIC doesn't have any indication of regen. An ODB2 monitoring device such as the Scangauge II or Torque App for Android with a Bluetooth adapter will allow EGT monitoring.
__________________
----------------------
The founder of JeepGarage.org, Scottina06, has a son Max who is in need of corrective surgery from an infection at birth that left one leg 4 inches short. We need to support our Jeep brothers. His family has started a fund on giveforward.com. If you have ever been helped by someone else, now is a good time to pay it forward. Here is a link to that page. God bless you! http://gfwd.at/1rz33PW
Reply With Quote
  #57  
Old 04-20-2014, 06:32 PM
SNUKE's Avatar
Premium Member
My Jeep: 2014 3.0L WK2
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Sydney, Aus
Posts: 2,789
Thanks: 66
Thanked 250 Times in 205 Posts
Rep Power: 5456
SNUKE has a reputation beyond reputeSNUKE has a reputation beyond reputeSNUKE has a reputation beyond reputeSNUKE has a reputation beyond reputeSNUKE has a reputation beyond reputeSNUKE has a reputation beyond reputeSNUKE has a reputation beyond reputeSNUKE has a reputation beyond reputeSNUKE has a reputation beyond reputeSNUKE has a reputation beyond reputeSNUKE has a reputation beyond repute
Garage
Re: exhaust system regeneration process

That's not true, the EVIC can display the Regen in process. This is mentioned on the Diesel Supplement Owners Manual



__________________
I'm just want it for the "shorter headlamps".

MY14 GC Limited, 3.0 CRD, Lux II, Granite Crystal, 18" Wheels, Tubular Side Steps.
Could I get my avatar much larger?
Ordered: July 7 2013 Delivered Nov 25th
Reply With Quote
  #58  
Old 04-20-2014, 07:05 PM
Premium Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: So. Florida
Posts: 48
Thanks: 5
Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts
Rep Power: 565
adw_tdi is on a distinguished road
Re: exhaust system regeneration process

Quote:
Originally Posted by *sox* View Post
Which oil you have use?

Gesendet von meinem iPhone mit JeepGarage
The Dealer did the change. I reminded them at least 5 times during the process that this was a CRD and needed the "special" oil, and they confirmed they used it.

I would be shocked if the system wouldn't let the oil life reset because it detected non-spec oil - hell if it could do that, it could tell that the oil had been changed without being told.
__________________
OWN: Overland 4x4 Max Steel/Indigo EcoDiesel with ORAII
Reply With Quote
  #59  
Old 04-20-2014, 07:27 PM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 278
Thanks: 13
Thanked 31 Times in 19 Posts
Rep Power: 1272
amr40509 has a reputation beyond reputeamr40509 has a reputation beyond reputeamr40509 has a reputation beyond reputeamr40509 has a reputation beyond reputeamr40509 has a reputation beyond reputeamr40509 has a reputation beyond reputeamr40509 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: exhaust system regeneration process

Quote:
Originally Posted by SNUKE View Post
That's not true, the EVIC can display the Regen in process. This is mentioned on the Diesel Supplement Owners Manual




You aren't North American Spec, right?

I don't think our North American builds show this


Sent from my iPhone using JeepGarage
__________________
---
2014 Granite / Frost Beige - Limited - Lux II - Off Road II - Block Heater - CRD
Reply With Quote
  #60  
Old 04-20-2014, 07:42 PM
Member
My Jeep: 2014 3.0L WK2
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 24
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 254
Emersonjeep has a reputation beyond reputeEmersonjeep has a reputation beyond reputeEmersonjeep has a reputation beyond reputeEmersonjeep has a reputation beyond reputeEmersonjeep has a reputation beyond repute
Re: exhaust system regeneration process

Snuke, I would love to see that message. How do you find it? If you leave the EVIC on the setting that shows DEF level, does this message come up on that screen during regen?
__________________

__________________
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Exhaust System DJMattyT Grand Cherokee - WK 5 08-09-2013 11:57 PM
Best Exhaust System for 4.0L wj? nickmuller Performance Modifications 4 02-17-2013 11:36 PM
Exhaust system color jp467 Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 3 08-09-2012 05:35 AM
A better exhaust system for the 5.7 WK?? jeepgcoman Grand Cherokee - WK 12 04-14-2011 09:04 PM
Anyone have the Corsa exhaust system yet? J13ntv Engine Performance/Intakes/Exhausts 6 02-16-2011 07:06 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:36 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2012 - JeepGarage.Org
The Jeep Grand Cherokee Owners Community