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I bought the recommended F106, per their website. I did get the one with the short nipple and hose as I can aim it into my container rather than have it splash out !
I just finished my first oil change, and I installed the F106 QwikValve while I was at it.

First, they aren't kidding when they say to wait at least 30 minutes. It took at least that long for the filter housing to drain.

Second, don't bother waiting for it to stop dripping unless you are willing to wait overnight. I did a variety of other chores, letting it drain for at least two hours and the pan was still dripping at least once every 30 seconds.

Third, damn, that QwikValve brass is soft. I couldn't torque it to the spec 33 ft-lbs using a socket on my torque wrench because it started rounding out the brass. I gently used a wrench on the valve body (shudder) to tighten it slightly further.

Fourth, I would have liked to have had a suction tool to clean out the filter housing rather than using shop towels. There's quite a bit of oil that resides below the lip and will never drain.

Fifth, I didn't need a jack. I put QuadraLift in OR2, disabled the suspension ("jack mode"), and threw a couple jack stands under the vehicle for peace of mind.
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Old 05-18-2014, 05:10 PM
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Re: First oil change some info and comments

Ohhh love the idea of putting it on OR2 mode and just adding jackstands! No need for ramps!
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Re: First oil change some info and comments

Are there any warranty (or extended warranty) issues with DIY oil changes, or oil changes performed by other than dealers locations?
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Are there any warranty (or extended warranty) issues with DIY oil changes, or oil changes performed by other than dealers locations?
I don't believe there are any ramifications if you have proper documentation (I also took a few pics w/ my cell phone of the empty bottles and the filter box, because why not?)

As for changes at "other than dealer locations", I don't think that's a practical course of action for this vehicle. First, there are only 2 or 3 specific oil types on the market that have the requisite certification type and are approved for this vehicle. Essentially no one stocks this. Same goes for the $40 filter that has no 3rd party alternatives. Finally, the proper procedure to change the oil requires that you let it drain for 30 minutes. I can't imagine any shop would feel the urge to cut corners on that (*cough*).

So, if you have to get the oil yourself, and get the filter yourself, and bring it with you to the quick lube place where they probably won't perform the proper procedure, you have to ask yourself why you aren't just doing entire oil change yourself. The DIY cost is approximately $100 for the oil and filter.

Conversely, if you don't want to do it yourself at all then the dealer will probably have the oil, and the filter, and have techs who know the proper procedure (whether they follow it is another story).
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I don't believe there are any ramifications if you have proper documentation (I also took a few pics w/ my cell phone of the empty bottles and the filter box, because why not?)

As for changes at "other than dealer locations", I don't think that's a practical course of action for this vehicle. First, there are only 2 or 3 specific oil types on the market that have the requisite certification type and are approved for this vehicle. Essentially no one stocks this. Same goes for the $40 filter that has no 3rd party alternatives. Finally, the proper procedure to change the oil requires that you let it drain for 30 minutes. I can't imagine any shop would feel the urge to cut corners on that (*cough*).

So, if you have to get the oil yourself, and get the filter yourself, and bring it with you to the quick lube place where they probably won't perform the proper procedure, you have to ask yourself why you aren't just doing entire oil change yourself. The DIY cost is approximately $100 for the oil and filter.

Conversely, if you don't want to do it yourself at all then the dealer will probably have the oil, and the filter, and have techs who know the proper procedure (whether they follow it is another story).
Ha my dealer did not have the oil or the filter! Had to wait for them to get from another dealer 75 miles away. Bet they did not wait for it to drain or for the 15 minutes before starting it! Don't have a good feeling about service where I bought!
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Re: First oil change some info and comments

wowsers!!!! Just did my first oil change last night at 11500km, oil was still very good, ICP showed good usable oil still!!! Waiting on AGAT analysis though

next in Canada the filter is 85 freaking dollars!!!!! So I'm headed south I think ill pop in a couple dodge dealers and grab a couple, geeezzzz

oil what a rip off!!! hahaha Oil is actually cheaper north of the border per dollar basis, but man 8 litters of euro spec adds up quick, thought I found a good deal 22.50 for 4 quarts got it home and realized it was 0-40 not 5-30...... so went back and got some Euro L

I used a turkey baster to clean out the filter housing, and waited around 30 minutes for the oil to stop dripping "ish" took my extra quart of oil and poured half through the fill and half through the filter, oil went from dark to clean out of the oil plug, and than I put a new plug in and topped her up with 8 quarts.... waited 15 minutes started her up, and purred like a kitten

all in all, prepare to drink a few beers while doing this one... I put the vehicle in OR2 and was able to work under it wit no fear
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I put the vehicle in OR2 and was able to work under it wit no fear
OR2 with QuadraLift is quite convenient. However, I would still suggest placing jack stands given the sporadic reports of random "settling" of vehicles with QL while parked.

I have never seen this happen with mine, but how long does it take to throw the jack stands into place? Peace of mind...
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Re: First oil change some info and comments

After reading this forum over the last 9 months, I was all ready to do my own oil change. Seemed like time was the only complication. But... I decided to check the dealer for the first one just to see what other factory computer updates needed to be done. So I'll do the second change... I told myself...

My oil only last ~4k miles and I suspect the computer update will fix that as I'm guessing the oil had a lot more life.

But after reading this forum I thought the worst on price and wow.. I'm not sure I can do it this cheap myself.

Oil: Mopar #68001334PB 8@$7.42 for $59.36
Filter: 68229402AA 1@$36.00.
Tech Fee to do the change: $22.35

Ok I can save the labor/tech fee. But for $22... And they did the computer updates, I really struggle with the idea of buying bear getting my jack stands out and making the trip to autozone to dump the old oil. $22 in Washington state seems like a deal.

So out the door I'm at $129 (includes $10 in sales tax). Now for 3k mile oil change that is crazy. But if I can get more than 6k on the next one, I'm no worse off than my than my old Ford Expedition oil changes.

Thought I'd share a Washington state price point.
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Re: First oil change some info and comments

Changing it on your own is almost as affordable as having a dealer change your non-diesel vehicle when using full-syn. It's not that bad.
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Doing it yourself IS cheaper but, more importantly, it also allows you to "get out and get under" to check your vehicle plus you KNOW it will be done correctly with the correct oil and parts being used .
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After reading this forum over the last 9 months, I was all ready to do my own oil change. Seemed like time was the only complication. But... I decided to check the dealer for the first one just to see what other factory computer updates needed to be done. So I'll do the second change... I told myself...

My oil only last ~4k miles and I suspect the computer update will fix that as I'm guessing the oil had a lot more life.
What is this computer update that you speak of? My EVIC is showing oil changes at around 3400 miles for the first 6000 miles.
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anyone from the US want to ship me some filters ...... they want 90 bucks a filter here.......
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