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Re: First Tow with Diesel

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Thank you. Today, we were driving from Green river to SLC via Highway 6. We noticed that there is a long uphill drive from Spanish Fork . We are not sure which route we should take when towing from SLC to Moab (I 70 or HW 6). Could anyone give us a suggestion which route we should take. We also noticed when the engine is running idle and the car is not moving, with air condition on the oil temp and the coolant temp stays normal. but with ACON off, the the temp gauge rises but the radiator fan does not start.
Hwy 6 will be more scenic and slower. Max speed of 65 or so. I70 will be faster and in my opinion more boring. If you are towing a trailer 65 is typically as fast as you want to go anyway as most trailer tires are only rated to 65 and therefore the faster speed limit of I70 will be negated.

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Re: First Tow with Diesel

Hi all,
Here is our first experience with towing a 5300 (loaded) Coachman RV trailer from West Jordan Utah to Moab Utah via I-70 and I-15 and US 191.

Basically we could not exceed 55 MPH. Most of the time on the grades we had to bring the speed down to 35-40 using paddles on gear 4-5.
The oil temperature was around 230-240, sometimes it went up to 248 but it was quickly went down to 208-2012 on the downhills. The temp gauge was most of the time on the last line of the second quarter. (in normal driving the niddle is on middle of the second quarter). On the other hand we got a good mileage 20 MPG. A couple of time on the serious steep uphills the niddle went up to the middle of the third quarter and we had to slow down to 30 MPH. Driving on the low gear did not help much but slowing down helped a lot since the diesels have more torque but they lacking high HP.
I think our JCG diesel is very capable of towing RVs within its towing range on the flat roads. It has to be monitored and manged on the grades and on the grades steeper than 5 degrees you should actually slow it down a lot to prevent overheating. The power is there but overheating sucks. We are very happy with buying this car so far. It is a car which can do off roading (We did one off roading in Moab), with a very good MPG overall, with luxury packages and it can also tow middle size RV trailer. If we stayed with our Honda Pilot we would never get the good experience with RV camping that we have today.
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Re: First Tow with Diesel

I posted some data that I experienced towing. Same issues about the higher coolant temperatures. I wish Fiat/Chrysler would address that and put our mines at ease. Is our temperature gauges to sensitive? Is it calibrated for the diesel engine? What I mean is, if it's meant to run at higher temperatures than the gas versions maybe the gauge needs to reflect that. Talk to us Chrysler/Jeep!
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Re: First Tow with Diesel

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Hwy 6 will be more scenic and slower. Max speed of 65 or so. I70 will be faster and in my opinion more boring. If you are towing a trailer 65 is typically as fast as you want to go anyway as most trailer tires are only rated to 65 and therefore the faster speed limit of I70 will be negated.
Hwy 6 isn't a bad road, but slower... we were up and over that pass last Dec, slow going anyway as trucks use the road (18 wheels)...

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Hi all,
Here is our first experience with towing a 5300 (loaded) Coachman RV trailer from West Jordan Utah to Moab Utah via I-70 and I-15 and US 191.

Basically we could not exceed 55 MPH. Most of the time on the grades we had to bring the speed down to 35-40 using paddles on gear 4-5.
The oil temperature was around 230-240, sometimes it went up to 248 but it was quickly went down to 208-2012 on the downhills. The temp gauge was most of the time on the last line of the second quarter. (in normal driving the niddle is on middle of the second quarter). On the other hand we got a good mileage 20 MPG. A couple of time on the serious steep uphills the niddle went up to the middle of the third quarter and we had to slow down to 30 MPH. Driving on the low gear did not help much but slowing down helped a lot since the diesels have more torque but they lacking high HP.
I think our JCG diesel is very capable of towing RVs within its towing range on the flat roads. It has to be monitored and manged on the grades and on the grades steeper than 5 degrees you should actually slow it down a lot to prevent overheating. The power is there but overheating sucks. We are very happy with buying this car so far. It is a car which can do off roading (We did one off roading in Moab), with a very good MPG overall, with luxury packages and it can also tow middle size RV trailer. If we stayed with our Honda Pilot we would never get the good experience with RV camping that we have today.

Good report. Glad you are having a great time.
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Re: First Tow with Diesel

Whilst watching the gauge can be a bit scary for the uninitiated, I always monitor mine when towing my large 3 ton van with an OBDII Wifi sender and my iPhone or iPad running the OBD Fusion App.
By doing that I can watch coolant and oil temps very closely, DPF Cat temp etc. Sure it gets hot pretty quickly when you hit a hill, the gauge moves a lot, then stops and goes no further.

I've yet to hear of a single JGC 3.0 diesel ANYWHERE actually overheating to the point of boiling etc., so don't sweat on it too much. The temps involved are perfectly fine with the high grade synthetic oil these engines use.

My suggestion would be, sure, keep an eye on it, but don't sweat too much.

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Re: First Tow with Diesel

Yesterday, we went to Monument Valley from Moab, though we left the RV trailer in Moab. Most of the time, the speed was 70 MPH. On some of steep hills with grade 10 and above the niddle was moving to the last line of the second quarter. However it was moving back quickly to the middle of the second quarter on downhill. We were driving in normal mode with eco on. Air condition was on all the time and the outside temperature was around 97. Tomorrow, we will pull the RV trailer from Moab to Zion national park.
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Re: First Tow with Diesel

This thread has some good background material for towing with our Diesel GC's!!
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Re: First Tow with Diesel

Diesels run best when they run hot. Modern engines run hot oil temps 245F from what we are used to seeing. My BMW twin turbo is designed to run 245F and I have seen it run 270F. It is no big deal with the synthetic oil out there now. I agree that the engine will de-fuel if it gets too hot. Water temps will climb since the turbo is both oil and water cooled.
Remember this engine has pretty fantastic performance for what it is and dumping more fuel will cool the engine some but at the cost of increased fuel consumption.
Buffered gages are there to keep the owner from freaking out because of seeing 235F water temps using an OBDII readout. Manufactures years ago did this to eliminate of reduce owners bringing their ride in because of high or low readings on analog gages that actually would read something other than C-H.
Once my service contract is up I will most likely reflash with a program that is more aggressive and I would guess that would be a real boon to the owners towing heavy loads.
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Re: First Tow with Diesel

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Hope you are well, Here is my first tow. no problems or high temps.

Not in the higher elevations as you guys out west, but up threw the Adirondacks.

I have the tow package on my Limited and use P3 brake controller.

I have a reese like this one but mine is 14000lb,not that I tow that heavy but was one sale from the same guys at etrailer.

Reese SC Weight Distribution w Sway Control - Trunnion - 12,000 lbs GTW, 1,200 lbs TW Reese Weight Distribution RP66155

The area where the trunion bars rest on the brake pad material. The longer this area is the more sway control you will have.

I have pulled 5k load and 7k load behind the Jeep with no problems.
I pulled 5k from SC to Peekskill NY and got 20-22mpg, the 7k load was a milling machine I pulled from Groton Ct to Peekskill then to Watertown Ny threw the Adirondacks getting 12-16 running 60-65.

Here's the 5k load when I sold my 1984 190d.









Loving my Jeep ECO.

Not sorry I got rid of 12 Ram 2500 with all the problems it had 38 days in the shop in 14 months of ownership.

I am able to pull the same loads with the Jeep as I pulled with the 2500, but get way better mileage!!

I purchased some temp slip on mirrors for better view of the load and to be able to see around the load. Trying to find some with better fit and less vibrations.
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Lol. Thanks for the microfiche photos. Glad to hear your change was for the better. Was your Ram 2500 a diesel? What problems were you having?


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Jsboening,

If your refering to the size of the pics,I did not want to take up lots of space on the Jeep.org Server but if you click on the picture it will take you to photobucket where pics are hosted.haha

Yes my 2500 was diesel cummins. The day I took delivery I did not even make it 5 miles home from dealer before getting first check engine soon light. I turned around and went to the dealer bad o2 sensor. All of my problems were related to air pollutions shit required by our EPA choking the shit out all our cars and trucks in USA. I could have fixed all problems by removing dpf and other crap but RAM would void my warranty.

Let the rest of the world catch up to our current EPA standards before imposing more restriction on USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I made the switch to diesel 10 years ago when the aholes started ethanol in gas killing motors. Now ethanol is being increase from 10% to 17% in near future. Good luck to use all when that happens!

I buy premium gas for chain saw,weedeater,boat,atvs,motorcycles to avoid ethanol.
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