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Hm, I noticed last night that Torque didn't seem to have a transmission temperature read that matched EVIC. The add-on PID for transmission temp for 2012+ Jeep returned no data, and the other transmission temp PID was returning data that seemed like a variant of the oil temp and was nowhere close (e.g. reading 95 C when EVIC said the transmission was 60 C).

Might be a 2014 thing.
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I will have to check out if the sensors are on the 2012 model.

Does the CAT sensor heat give you a good indication of the EGT's while driving ?
Yes, it is a slower reacting average temperature. It has several seconds of lag. What we don't know is much lower it is than at the turbo under constant load. I assume, to be on the safe side, there is a 150F or more drop so upstream temps are higher. We also don't know what the safe continuous limits are. I'm guessing 1200F conservatively....so 1050F at the CAT sensor is my continuous limit.
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Re: Good OBD II App

Is the Cat temperature only available on the Pro version of Torque? What other useful MY14 CRD data is available in Pro that isn't in the free version?

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Is the Cat temperature only available on the Pro version of Torque? What other useful MY14 CRD data is available in Pro that isn't in the free version?
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Not sure. The Pro version was 6 bucks when I bought it. I have it loaded on 2 phones and a tablet so there's no limit there. It does show CAT temp but not pre-turbo EGT and DPF temp like my Scanguage2. I've been waiting for someone to post the custom PID codes for Torque to do this.

The strength of Torque is the configurable graphic displays and logging capabilities IMHO.
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Re: Good OBD II App

Thanks ED... I'll grab a copy of the Pro version, because something is better than nothing! I figure the sooner I establish baseline data the better.

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Re: Good OBD II App

IIRC Torque Pro is a complete revamp of the platform and introduces many new features including a PID scanner.

EGT1 is PID 78 on my Torque setup. It seems to be pre-turbo EGT as it reacts very quickly to throttle input and climbs to 1300F at WOT.

CAT B1S1 is somewhere downstream of the DPF. It reacts much more slowly and hardly ever makes it above 1000F except during a regen where it will move around anywhere between 1000F and 1300F. I have my Torque display to alert when it climbs above 1000 to let me know when a regen is in progress. The only other time it climbs above that level is when I'm towing the travel trailer up a mountain grade.

The boost calculation in Torque seemed to be I think 2.2psi low; engine off/ignition on showed -2.2psig when it should be at 0psig. I added a correction factor to Torque that gives me a correct boost reading. WOT runs after correction show boost in the 21-23psig range which seems right.

Oil temp follows EVIC and seems to be correct. EVIC has a few second delay from a change on Torque. Probably buffering so if the oil temp is straddling two temp reading steps it doesn't jump back and forth on the display.

Coolant temp works well and confirmed to me that the cluster gauge is calibrated on the hot side. Middle tick seems to be around 201F and the start of the red is probably about 230F. Mine settled in around 220 when towing the travel trailer up a 6% grade at about 47mph.

Still need stuff like fuel rail pressure, oil pressure, injector duty cycle and trans temp (even though EVIC has it)
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Thanks MB... that's fantastic info. I appreciate the time taken in punching it out.

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EGT1 is PID 78 on my Torque setup. It seems to be pre-turbo EGT as it reacts very quickly to throttle input and climbs to 1300F at WOT.
Great info. I'm curious how you setup EGT 1 [PID 78]? I see the custom PID options but it looks like there are several fields to fill in.

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The boost calculation in Torque seemed to be I think 2.2psi low; engine off/ignition on showed -2.2psig when it should be at 0psig. I added a correction factor to Torque that gives me a correct boost reading. WOT runs after correction show boost in the 21-23psig range which seems right.
Same here. I am not sure that's not vacuum on the intake when there is no boost. Anyone know where the sensor is located? The motor must suck air through the intake, filter, under driven turbo, and intercooler before reaching the intake while idling. I've noticed some parameters don't update without the ignition on. Just an observation.

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Re: Good OBD II App

I have been using Torque now for about 3 years had alot more info on my Crewman.

Here a some recent logs I have started saving all my data for a baseline as I will be getting the long awaited work done while I am on holidays.

The alarm function is great just set and forget well worth the money.

Here is a recent log, not much of a Excel person.
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I have an iPhone. I got the Torque and OBD Fusion - I like Fusion better.
I didn't think torque we available for iPhone? I can't find it in our Aussie App Store..
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Also, OBD fusion won't allow me to input a custom PID...it has an extensive list but I can't make a display show the DPF percentage because there is no option for a custom PID or calculation, unless I'm missing something..
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Also, OBD fusion won't allow me to input a custom PID...it has an extensive list but I can't make a display show the DPF percentage because there is no option for a custom PID or calculation, unless I'm missing something..
Oh, never mind, my mistake I found where to enter custom PID after I rebooted the app, even gives a nice warning about screwing things up, I like this fusion app for iOS devices, looks good!

I have another 5 hours before my wifi OBDii device is in my hot little hands, just getting it all setup in the mean time..
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