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Old 11-29-2015, 09:32 AM
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The relay certainly can be jumped with the GDE tune.
And that will disable the GDE tune's choice of limp mode as inducement? That would be... surprising... if true.

The point is that with stock firmware the penalty is "no start", and that can be trivially bypassed by jumpering the starter relay (thanks to GDE for promulgating that info, BTW). With the GDE tune the penalty is changed to be limp mode instead, and limp mode is unlikely to be bypassable.

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Old 11-29-2015, 01:44 PM
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And that will disable the GDE tune's choice of limp mode as inducement? That would be... surprising... if true.

The point is that with stock firmware the penalty is "no start", and that can be trivially bypassed by jumpering the starter relay (thanks to GDE for promulgating that info, BTW). With the GDE tune the penalty is changed to be limp mode instead, and limp mode is unlikely to be bypassable.
Let's wait for GDE to clarify. In any case the GDE tune eliminates the one strike and your out no start. So no reason to even have to jump the starter relay unless you totally ignore the message .

The "inducement" (messages that you have XXX miles until no restart) will still function like stock. The big difference is that with the GDE tune, you will not be penalized with the no restart. For the first restart after reaching 0mi the engine will run normally, starting with the 2nd restart it will still run just with a reduced power level.
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The "inducement" (messages that you have XXX miles until no restart) will still function like stock.
I'm fairly certain "inducement" refers to the penalty rather than the warning messages. The GDE tune substitutes the penalty rather than eliminating it. It's nice to know that the stock penalty can be bypassed though.
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I'm fairly certain "inducement" refers to the penalty rather than the warning messages. The GDE tune substitutes the penalty rather than eliminating it. It's nice to know that the stock penalty can be bypassed though.
Yeah, I'm not sure. I was only quoting what GDE had stated.

"The "inducement" (messages that you have XXX miles until no restart) will still function like stock. The big difference is that with the GDE tune, you will not be penalized with the no restart. For the first restart after reaching 0mi the engine will run normally, starting with the 2nd restart it will still run just with a reduced power level."
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Re: green diesel engineering tune

I can't believe the debate on this. I fill a box of DEF when the reminder comes on and don't think anything more. 6800 miles on the GDE tune and zero issues.
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Yeah, I'm not sure. I was only quoting what GDE had stated.

"The "inducement" (messages that you have XXX miles until no restart) will still function like stock. The big difference is that with the GDE tune, you will not be penalized with the no restart. For the first restart after reaching 0mi the engine will run normally, starting with the 2nd restart it will still run just with a reduced power level."
The characteristic of 1st restart everything normal, 2nd and subsequent in power limitation was linked to our earlier tunes. Anything tuned within the last 6-8wks just leaves the vehicle running normal for every restart, no power limitation/limp home mode in place anymore.
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I can't believe the debate on this. I fill a box of DEF when the reminder comes on and don't think anything more. 6800 miles on the GDE tune and zero issues.
Might as well believe it. it's for real. No sense in kidding yourself.
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Re: green diesel engineering tune

checks in the mail... we gettin it goin... cb engineering intercooler and drop in afe dry filter. couple weeks hopefully
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Re: green diesel engineering tune

10,000 miles on the GDE tune and not a single issue. DEF Warning comes, I stop by PepBoys and pick up a box. Simple as that... Unless you have their latest flash which makes this all moot.


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Also, keep in mind the scenario people are dreading isn't running out of DEF. It is having your DEF line accidentally ripped out while you are on the trail, not knowing it happened and shutting it off for the night when you make camp, then not being able to start it since the vehicle thinks the system has been tampered with. Or being so remote that the mileage countdown won't get you back to civilization. Either way it is just a disaster waiting to happen, especially if you don't have the protection plate in place. And this is built into the software! Even limp mode should be better than nothing.
Having the def line ripped out while on a trail can be avoided if you had the WK2 DEF INJECTOR / FULL HARNESS PROTECTION SHIELD by Shield Productions which protects the entire length of the vulnerable harness lines and Def injector all in one.. Just saying.
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Re: green diesel engineering tune

Just to clarify for anyone that may have doubt. I ran my 2014 CRD for nearly 1k miles with the engine will not restart message, after the countdown ran out.

The only draw back was that my remote start was disabled due to the CEL. if I did not have the GDE Hot tune i would have been screwed and at the mercy of the dealer. i have since installed the CB engineering turbo back pipe with the GDE Offroad tune and all is well.

I cant stress enough how well any combination of these solutions works. To me it was an investment in longevity and away to get myself out from under the thumb of my incompetent dealership.

Also, if you live in N. Jersey or the tri state area, I had my install done at Total performance in Mahwah. They're an outstanding operation.

Big Big thanks to the GDE team, Christian at CB-engineering, and Chris / Mike at Total performance
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I had Christian's DPF delete pipe and Keith's ECO Tune on my WK CRD years ago and it made a huge difference. Now I'm on a leased vehicle and am not sure I'll buy it or get a new one when it expires.
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