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Re: green diesel engineering tune

Those with the GDE hot tune whats sort of EGT temps are you seeing under WOT and load or even towing.

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Those with the GDE hot tune whats sort of EGT temps are you seeing under WOT and load or even towing.

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I towed a couple days ago and saw around 700 degrees while towing
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30k now, still good
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Re: green diesel engineering tune

A little off topic but if you ever send or exchange your ecm for an update, don't bother paying for the faster shipping. Mine is later than promised and I got laughed at when I suggested he complain to the postal service, not happy with the shipping and disappointed with the customer service for a repeat customer.


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Re: green diesel engineering tune

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A little off topic but if you ever send or exchange your ecm for an update, don't bother paying for the faster shipping. Mine is later than promised and I got laughed at when I suggested he complain to the postal service, not happy with the shipping and disappointed with the customer service for a repeat customer.


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Are you saying you are a repeat postal service customer and are disappointed with the post office?

Complaining to the post office is a joke and warrants a little laughter.
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Re: green diesel engineering tune

Is there any advice from GDE regarding this impending "shifter of doom" recall?

It has not yet been rolled out for the EcoDiesels, but I don't imagine that the procedure listed in Safety Recall S27 will differ. Salient excerpt:

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SPECIAL NOTE: The four modules must be reprogramed in the following order:
1st - Powertrain Control Module (PCM)
2nd - Transmission Control Module (TCM)
3rd - Radio Frequency Hub (RFH)
4th - Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC)
You'll notice an obvious issue here for GDE tune users who did not obtain a spare PCM. Either the PCM gets overwritten during the recall and needs a replacement GDE flash (which would be the ideal scenario), or if the GDE firmware is "nuke proof" and prevents the dealer overwriting it then the recall software is in a metastable state where it has only been partially applied. This could conceivably cause issues with the other TCM, RFH, and IPC systems expecting new functionality from the PCM that is missing due to remaining on the GDE-modified old firmware.

Conversely, if one obtained a new, "post-shifter recall" version of the GDE firmware then it would seem likely to have a dependency on the other systems having their updates applied as well.

I really doubt FCA engineers QA'd the scenario where the other three systems were upgraded and the PCM was not, or the scenario where the PCM was upgraded and the other three systems were not... especially given their explicit notice about which order the firmware updates must be applied (not to mention their track record).

Finally, I speculate concern that future versions of the GDE firmware would be based on the recall version of the firmware—implying that if you don't want this "shifter of doom" recall performed on your vehicle you might be SOL in the future if you want the latest and greatest Hot Tune firmware from GDE.

Therefore, I recommend that all GDE firmware users wait to have this recall applied until GDE indicates the correct course of action.
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Good point. I want to buy the GDE tune eventually and I do not want this silly recall performed. I'll stay tuned to this thread...
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oddly enough my Jeep is in the dealer addressing Service 4wd System and this recall is on the work order. Doesn't bother me if I have to get a reflash from GDE. the benefits outweigh the occasional hassle.
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Is there any advice from GDE regarding this impending "shifter of doom" recall?

I recommend that all GDE firmware users wait to have this recall applied until GDE indicates the correct course of action.

It is a very valid point. Just had the SCR recall preformed and will be ordering a GDE tune next week(installing it on a spare ECM that I acquired). I was told on Wednesday by a Chrysler DSM that the software only shifter recall(for the EcoDiesel) will take 3 hours to download correctly, and if the procedure is not preformed in the specific order it will need to be redone. He also indicated that with all likeyhood the software would be ready before the end of July. Also it should be noted that anyone that takes their EcoDiesel in for service/oil changes after the software has been approved for distribution, the recall will be applied to your vehicle with or without your consent - per the DSM. That being said, and in agreement with Roadkill: we should wait until we know all the parameters that this recall will fix, lest we find ourselves with a neutered Jeep, akin to the botched N23 recall of the previous generation WK.
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It is a very valid point. Just had the SCR recall preformed and will be ordering a GDE tune next week(installing it on a spare ECM that I acquired). I was told on Wednesday by a Chrysler DSM that the software only shifter recall(for the EcoDiesel) will take 3 hours to download correctly, and if the procedure is not preformed in the specific order it will need to be redone. He also indicated that with all likeyhood the software would be ready before the end of July. Also it should be noted that anyone that takes their EcoDiesel in for service/oil changes after the software has been approved for distribution, the recall will be applied to your vehicle with or without your consent - per the DSM. That being said, and in agreement with Roadkill: we should wait until we know all the parameters that this recall will fix, lest we find ourselves with a neutered Jeep, akin to the botched N23 recall of the previous generation WK.
I wound up emailing the guys at GDE a little while ago and they said the PCM controls how this will function, so they can tune it out once they are able to get the software update themselves. The other modules flashed won't be affected by retning the PCM post recall flash
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I wound up emailing the guys at GDE a little while ago and they said the PCM controls how this will function, so they can tune it out once they are able to get the software update themselves. The other modules flashed won't be affected by retning the PCM post recall flash
Thanks for taking the initiative. It sounds like it will be best for GDE users to avoid the dealer between the time this is recall is released for EcoDieaels and the point at which GDE releases updated firmware.

The question is whether this recall actually nukes the GDE firmware. I seem to recall some flippant "*if* the dealer can overwrite the GDE firmware" type comment in the past, which caused me to suspect GDE firmware may be "protected" from being flashed. That wouldn't be ideal in the context of this recall if "old" GDE PCM firmware is operating with new firmware on those other three subsystems that expects to interface with "new" PCM firmware.

Hopefully GDE will offer an option for users to elect to *not* enable the "shifter of doom" auto park feature. It really sounds like this auto-park feature might prove deleterious to the off-road use of the Jeep.
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Thanks for taking the initiative. It sounds like it will be best for GDE users to avoid the dealer between the time this is recall is released for EcoDieaels and the point at which GDE releases updated firmware.

The question is whether this recall actually nukes the GDE firmware. I seem to recall some flippant "*if* the dealer can overwrite the GDE firmware" type comment in the past, which caused me to suspect GDE firmware may be "protected" from being flashed. That wouldn't be ideal in the context of this recall if "old" GDE PCM firmware is operating with new firmware on those other three subsystems that expects to interface with "new" PCM firmware.

Hopefully GDE will offer an option for users to elect to *not* enable the "shifter of doom" auto park feature. It really sounds like this auto-park feature might prove deleterious to the off-road use of the Jeep.
I've had the same issue before - GDE software kept them from updating my PCM in the past. But from talking with Matt at GDE he said they will write it out in the future - essentially doing the recall to make them go away and they will keep it out of theirs!
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