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Re: Help me see the "savings" of diesel?

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I would caution that the "life expectancy" aspect has yet to be proved with this diesel, given all the horrible systems forced on it by the EPA. Hell, just look at the somewhat prevalent SCR cat issue that has cropped up in under 2 years of ownership.

Of course, if one were to get a tune that disabled EGR and perhaps deleted the DPF/SCR... oh, and if one added a catch can to mitigate the nasty PCV... then I'm guessing this diesel would live up to the reputation of long-term reliability.

In the meantime, one can just budget for Max Care, the GDE tune, and a catch can.
I hear there may be some unemployed Volkswagen engineers that may be able to provide a tune for the diesel to do some of this.

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Re: Help me see the "savings" of diesel?

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Thank you for the great replies gentlemen!! I think you nailed it...talking about towing. Someone who wants great economy and tows a lot would highly benefit.
The unique fun of driving a diesel imho is worth more money overall if that's what it took. The real world fuel economy difference from the Hemi is significant and will save you money.

Any towing at all and it's no comparison....

Great problem to have debating these nice vehicles! Good luck.

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Old 12-07-2015, 09:39 AM
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Re: Help me see the "savings" of diesel?

I'm paying $2.10 for diesel, that's about what I was paying for gas. so, considering I was only getting an 'honest' 15 mpg. now I'm roughly 10 more mpgs! yeah, it hits ya hard in the pocket at first, but I look at it as fuel savings and I wont have to buy another vehicle for a couple more years than I would if I were driving my 2011 ram 1500 hemi... the hemi has 70k and needed $3500 worth of work; front end, brakes, manifold bolt replacement, oh and tires.
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Re: Help me see the "savings" of diesel?

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In a day to day automobile for transportation, there is no such thing as an "investment". You pay to drive it....and it depreciates. End of story. Rent or buy, your choice.

You either like a diesel, or you don't.
You either need a diesel, or you don't.
You either worry about "savings" or you don't.
You either rent a car or buy it.

Any way you look at it, if a diesel suits you and/or your needs and you can afford it, you rent it/buy it.

In over 50 years of driving, I never rented basic transportation. Always bought and cared for them. And if I REALLY liked them, I've sometimes kept them for 10 to 15 years. But that is me......

If you have to worry about "savings", then perhaps you shouldn't buy one !
You are right on
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So far I'm not seeing that much of a savings in choosing the diesel vs. the V6.
Well, there's your problem...

You're comparing to the V6. You should be comparing to the V8, which is a more comparable engine.

The V6 and the Diesel are not anywhere close to equal in power and performance. You may as well be comparing a Ford Explorer to a Super Duty F-250.

The V6 is a family hauler. The diesel Jeep is a boat and camper hauler. You get the V6 to go to the beach with the wave runner. You get the diesel to launch your cabin cruiser at the marina.

The V6 will net you about 12 MPG hauling close to capacity. The diesel will still get you well over 20MPG for the same weight, with the ability to tow another half a ton available.
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