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Old 09-26-2014, 08:07 AM
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Rick,

It's the EPA crap our enviro-wack driven government (and Kalifornia) has prematurely forced on diesels in recent years. All new diesels, regardless of manufacturer, are suffering from this. Its rediculous.

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Old 09-26-2014, 09:32 AM
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Re: Incorrect DEF - See dealer

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Hello guys/gals, First post, first Jeep product. After life treating us right for a few years now, we thought we were buying my wife her "dream" vehicle, a 2014 (Apr 2014 build date) GC Overland 4x4 ecodiesel. We've been a Toyota and Dodge/Ram family for life (I'm 43 y/o) and have literally only had 2 vehicles into a shop for a repair, (admittedly bought new vehicles more often than most but did trade my paid for 2007 Tundra 135k miles for this JGC), and we love the vehicle so far.

I am literally scared about the future durability/longevity of this engine/vehicle based on the entirety of the posts on this forum, we only have 1800 miles and so far no issues .

I know vehicles have issues, but can someone please tell me that there are Jeep GC's out there trouble free, with a positive chance to be so for years?

This is supposed to be one of those proud husband moments where I took care of the wife with a major purchase, but I'm more nervous now about this vehicle than at any point in my life. I hope I'm overreacting due to the amount of money spent and someone here can talk me off the cliff. Thanks for any positive comments.

Rick
We are the happy and satisfied owners of a 2014 GC 4x4 Limited Ecodiesel that we took delivery of in Nov. 2013. It now has over 13,000 trouble free miles and gets 24mpg in town and 28 - 30 mpg in 80mph highway driving. BTW I have noticed an increase in the mpg as it puts on more miles. We also have a 2014 GC 2wd Limited V6 that we took delivery of July 2014 with 15000 trouble free miles. We love Them!
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Old 09-26-2014, 11:15 AM
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Re: Incorrect DEF - See dealer

2014 (March build) Ecodiesel here as well with 11k trouble free miles and 2k of them towing a 6k lb trailer through the mountains. Get mid 20s average and low 30's highway. The mpg will go up as the engine breaks in (diesels normally exceed their EPA ratings as they are done in laboratory or no testing at all and done by an algorithm).
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Old 09-26-2014, 11:58 AM
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Re: Incorrect DEF - See dealer

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New to the Forum. Waiting on delivery of a 2015 GC Overland Ecodiesel.

I took this post and created a spreadsheet in Excel that allows you to plug in the DEF code. The DEF manufacture code is automatically deciphered and the values show in cells much like the table above.

I run an Android phone. I downloaded Google Sheets and uploaded the spreadsheet to Dropbox. I then opened it with Google Sheets. It works fine.

I could see adding another formula to the sheet to calculate how many days old the DEF is based on the code.

I wanted to have this on my phone so I can plug in codes and let the phone tell me how old the DEF is.

Is this useful to anyone, or am I just trying to find things to do waiting on 2015 diesel production to start? I can share this somewhere but don't know how things like this are done on the Forum.

This is simple enough to put into an app for an Android or Apple product. I've never tried to do so but could see where it could be useful for folks who are math-challenged.

Any takers?

I would be very interested. I'll send you a PM so you can send me a copy. Kudos!


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Old 09-26-2014, 02:44 PM
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Hello guys/gals, First post, first Jeep product. After life treating us right for a few years now, we thought we were buying my wife her "dream" vehicle, a 2014 (Apr 2014 build date) GC Overland 4x4 ecodiesel. We've been a Toyota and Dodge/Ram family for life (I'm 43 y/o) and have literally only had 2 vehicles into a shop for a repair, (admittedly bought new vehicles more often than most but did trade my paid for 2007 Tundra 135k miles for this JGC), and we love the vehicle so far.

I am literally scared about the future durability/longevity of this engine/vehicle based on the entirety of the posts on this forum, we only have 1800 miles and so far no issues .

I know vehicles have issues, but can someone please tell me that there are Jeep GC's out there trouble free, with a positive chance to be so for years?

This is supposed to be one of those proud husband moments where I took care of the wife with a major purchase, but I'm more nervous now about this vehicle than at any point in my life. I hope I'm overreacting due to the amount of money spent and someone here can talk me off the cliff. Thanks for any positive comments.

Rick
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The only place where when a few people have trouble with a vehicle, you are led to believe it's an issue of epidemic proportions!


Relax.. it's a fine vehicle. I've had mine for 3 months, put 3K on it, towed a little, had a couple 400 mile road trips and have no complaints.

And yes, once it has an issue.. I'll be sure to bring up talk about how chrysler has sucked since Lee Iacocca created the K-Car, my State lemon laws are BS and my shitty Jeep dealer and his ugly wife and kids

EDIT: Thank these guys for posting their issues and possible fixes. One thing I've determined, I'm not putting "BluDef" in my truck. I'll gladly pay extra for the Mopar branded stuff, purchased from the dealer.

EDIT # two: Make sure Wife knows what the Diesel Pumps look like. I won't buy my wife a Diesel, she'd sure as hell put unleaded in it
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Welcome to the Wide Wide World of Internet Automotive Forums
The only place where when a few people have trouble with a vehicle, you are led to believe it's an issue of epidemic proportions!


Relax.. it's a fine vehicle. I've had mine for 3 months, put 3K on it, towed a little, had a couple 400 mile road trips and have no complaints.

And yes, once it has an issue.. I'll be sure to bring up talk about how chrysler has sucked since Lee Iacocca created the K-Car, my State lemon laws are BS and my shitty Jeep dealer and his ugly wife and kids

EDIT: Thank these guys for posting their issues and possible fixes. One thing I've determined, I'm not putting "BluDef" in my truck. I'll gladly pay extra for the Mopar branded stuff, purchased from the dealer.

EDIT # two: Make sure Wife knows what the Diesel Pumps look like. I won't buy my wife a Diesel, she'd sure as hell put unleaded in it
Thanks for the replies guys, it's always nice reading positives vs negatives. I know stuff gets blown out of proportion, but I was seeing all the negative I guess. We bought the 7yr/100k warranty and I'm sure we wil have decent luck. It is an incredibly nice vehicle, although I've only driven it a couple times. Much fancier than my Tundra, but I miss my truck.

Deal was in a few years I can buy whatever truck I want

Have a great weekend.

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You need to call Jeep Customer Care and establish a case#. Get the Star case# from your dealer if they have created one. Give the rep the complete history and tell them you want to keep the vehicle but can't if it isn't fixed and proven reliable afterwards.
Well, shortly after my post the dealer called and said my Jeep was repaired and ready to go! Long story short - I got a whole ~20 miles before the check engine light came on. They replaced the EGR valve and the DEF tank on this last [32 day] repair.

I have a Lemon Law letter template that I am filling in and will meet with the dealer Monday.

What a shame, I really love this vehicle!!!
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Drain the def tank yourself and put in new def
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Replacement of the Catalytic Converter has been the fix for many of us. Especially those of us with a persistant P20EE code.

I have a new theory that the cat is getting damaged from thermal stress. I am guilty of allowing water to go in the tailpipe at the high pressure auto wash. My first code came while in Florida and, now that I think of it, I had just washed my car at a roadside car wash to get the sea salt off while on the way home. If my vehicle just regened, the cat would be 1100F and a shot of water in the tailpipe could be pretty stressful to the honeycomb in the cat. Here is the kicker...the cat sits lower than the exhaust tips and it's downhill the whole way....YIKES.

So, I will avoid direct spray on the tail pipes from now on. I would be interested to know if others with a failed cat also use a high pressure car wash or get water up the pipes.
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so much for the Up to 20" of Water Fording claim
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so much for the Up to 20" of Water Fording claim
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Who knows...with the motor running, water back flow down the pipes may not be an issue. I'm thinking that washing with the motor off may be bad for the Catalytic converter...especially if it's broiling hot. I am guilty of directing water in the pipes and my cat failed. I'm used to doing this on my big diesel rig but it's a 5" straight piped exhaust. No way to harm it. Something is causing these failures on our diesel Jeeps.
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Re: Incorrect DEF - See dealer

I was getting ready to join the 2015 Chrysler 200 forum...and then the dealer called me today and said my Jeep would be ready tomorrow after the 60 mile learning drive. I had the converter replaced and in the process something happened where the O2 sensor required replacing as well. Does anyone know what the 60 miles learning drive accomplishes? How are new vehicles synced with limited miles?


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