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I was getting ready to join the 2015 Chrysler 200 forum...and then the dealer called me today and said my Jeep would be ready tomorrow after the 60 mile learning drive. I had the converter replaced and in the process something happened where the O2 sensor required replacing as well. Does anyone know what the 60 miles learning drive accomplishes? How are new vehicles synced with limited miles?
The 60 mile drive is an SCR calibration routine. The dealer let me do my own since the procedure is to drive nonstop at 50 - 60 mph which is my trip home from the dealer.

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NOOOOOO !!!!!!! Got a P20EE.

I was going to do some 4-wheeling and hiking today. As soon as I pulled off the pavement and hit a couple bumps the MIL came on. The dreaded P20EE. I wonder if the bumps had an effect. Maybe crystals in the sensor or tank moved. (Wild speculation.)

The service center can't look at it for another five days. Since I have it for a while, any recommendations? I will take a look underneath, but I don't want to remove the sensor while it is under warranty.
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Re: Incorrect DEF - See dealer

Just got Java and the Android developers kit running on my PC. This is a project, not a night of coding. Will keep the group informed as I learn the ins and outs of coding an app for Android.

Is there anything else out there that would be useful, diesel-related, that would be handy to have? I can see a scrolling list of fault codes being useful.
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Is there anything else out there that would be useful, diesel-related, that would be handy to have? I can see a scrolling list of fault codes being useful.
1. A reference of Uconnect voice commands would be nice....although not diesel related, all diesels have a Uconnect radio.

2. A reference of fuses and locations would be nice.

3. Oil, Air, Cabin and Fuel filter part numbers for various brands.

4. Tire sizes for 18" and 20" rims.

5. Simple mileage tracker.

4. Service intervals for all components. If the user is entering odometer readings for mileage, a reminder for service can be tiggered.

Anything else that involves daily operation and maintainance.
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Re: Incorrect DEF - See dealer

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The 60 mile drive is an SCR calibration routine. The dealer let me do my own since the procedure is to drive nonstop at 50 - 60 mph which is my trip home from the dealer.
This is interesting as my Jeep is throwing a P20EE code is coming on every 60 miles. I am going to reset it tonight and drive 60 miles non stop to confirm.
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This is interesting as my Jeep is throwing a P20EE code is coming on every 60 miles. I am going to reset it tonight and drive 60 miles non stop to confirm.
Since the last tsb after my regens I am using def fluid again. Up until two weeks ago the def gauge had not moved. I've gone from the P20EE code coming on after the regen to the code coming on twice in less than two weeks. I'll watch the mileage in case its related but I'm confident its based on each owners personal driving habits and commutes. I have encountered more stop and go traffic since the schools started then I have since the last tsb.
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Since the last tsb after my regens I am using def fluid again. Up until two weeks ago the def gauge had not moved. I've gone from the P20EE code coming on after the regen to the code coming on twice in less than two weeks. I'll watch the mileage in case its related but I'm confident its based on each owners personal driving habits and commutes. I have encountered more stop and go traffic since the schools started then I have since the last tsb.
You are correct Mazster43... I don't know what I am talking about... I drove 65 miles tonight no P20EE.
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The only place where when a few people have trouble with a vehicle, you are led to believe it's an issue of epidemic proportions!


Relax.. it's a fine vehicle. I've had mine for 3 months, put 3K on it, towed a little, had a couple 400 mile road trips and have no complaints.

And yes, once it has an issue.. I'll be sure to bring up talk about how chrysler has sucked since Lee Iacocca created the K-Car, my State lemon laws are BS and my shitty Jeep dealer and his ugly wife and kids

EDIT: Thank these guys for posting their issues and possible fixes. One thing I've determined, I'm not putting "BluDef" in my truck. I'll gladly pay extra for the Mopar branded stuff, purchased from the dealer.

EDIT # two: Make sure Wife knows what the Diesel Pumps look like. I won't buy my wife a Diesel, she'd sure as hell put unleaded in it

I just bought 2 1/2 gallons of Mopar DEF from the dealer sold me my JGC Ecodiesel. I now have just over 18,000 miles and have been using Peak BluDEF since the first time I had to add DEF without any problems. However, after reading through issues experienced by many owners, I decided to go with Mopar. At $30.23 for 2 1/2 gallons, it's almost exactly twice the price of BluDEF, but the Mopar stuff has a label clearly stating the date of manufacture as well as the use by date, while the Peak DEF has neither. Better safe than sorry.


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the Mopar stuff has a label clearly stating the date of manufacture as well as the use by date, while the Peak DEF has neither.
BlueDEF has a printed manufacturing date printed on the outside cardboard box. A few threads here explain how to read and interpret the date.
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Since the last tsb after my regens I am using def fluid again. Up until two weeks ago the def gauge had not moved. I've gone from the P20EE code coming on after the regen to the code coming on twice in less than two weeks. I'll watch the mileage in case its related but I'm confident its based on each owners personal driving habits and commutes. I have encountered more stop and go traffic since the schools started then I have since the last tsb.
Hey you guys......! For us new guys, (car on order, don't have it yet) can you tell me what SCR and tsb stand for. And - these codes you quote - do they come up in the vehicles info center or do you have specialized equipment?
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Hey you guys......! For us new guys, (car on order, don't have it yet) can you tell me what SCR and tsb stand for. And - these codes you quote - do they come up in the vehicles info center or do you have specialized equipment?
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SCR: Selective Catalytic Reduction

TSB: Technical Service Bulletin - Released from time to time by Chrysler to address repairs and updates to the vehicle.

DTC: Diagnostic Trouble Code - Codes generated by the vehicle computer that describe specific faults. Usually when an active DTC is present your CEL (Check Engine Light) will turn on. Some DTC's will post a message on the EVIC or in the message center. To be able to read DTC's you need a device called an OBDII scanner (OBD: OnBoard Diagnostics) which attaches to your OBDII connector in the car and allows you (among many other things) to see active and pending DTC's and clear them.

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SCR: Selective Catalytic Reduction

TSB: Technical Service Bulletin - Released from time to time by Chrysler to address repairs and updates to the vehicle.

DTC: Diagnostic Trouble Code - Codes generated by the vehicle computer that describe specific faults. Usually when an active DTC is present your CEL (Check Engine Light) will turn on. Some DTC's will post a message on the EVIC or in the message center. To be able to read DTC's you need a device called an OBDII scanner (OBD: OnBoard Diagnostics) which attaches to your OBDII connector in the car and allows you (among many other things) to see active and pending DTC's and clear them.

Google and this forum are your friends so keep exploring.
Thanks -excellent summary. I knew some of this but not all - I really appreciate the concise summary. I think here in California with biannual emissions testing I'd be best to just leave everything alone.
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