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Re: Is this a bad idea?

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Have been pulling an aluminum 7 x 19' V-nose, that has a 76" interior height, tandem axle w/electric brakes on both axles for two years w/o a WD hitch. The trailer weighs 2040lbs empty, and the cargo adds another 2231lbs. No problems while running grades, interstate or otherwise.
This is very encouraging. Anyone else running a v-nose with or without a weight distribution hitch?

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I tow a 14x7 vnose at least 3-4 times a month. Empty it weighs about 2,200 lbs with tool chest and stuff that stays in it. When loaded with track car and gear it's about 5,000 lbs. I don't use a WDH or anti sway as my rig is narrower and it's not 6'6" height so not as tall either. I do not go over 70 mph towing though but love it when I get 20 mpg towing loaded in this thing if I keep it at the speed limit (65 mph).
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Re: Is this a bad idea?

If you want to be absolutely within spec use a WD hitch. Can it be done without. Yes, but as was mentioned before, if there were an accident you could be found liable if your trailer is above the weight recommended for use without one.

That being said, I have never used a WD hitch. I do practice proper loading techniques. (See below) This is much easier when you have a constant package that you tow frequently. You can take your time to have the trailer weighed, and use a tounge scale to determine the tounge weight and adjust the load accordingly. For your scenario this would not be so easy since it could mean unloading and rearranging the load a couple times to get it right

Load heavy items over the axles
Keep the younger weight at approximately 10% of the total trailer weight
Never load a trailer back heavy!

I tow a 12x7x7 tandem axle trailer with brakes on both axles. It weighs close to 7000#. I only tow this locally with my JGC, for longer trips I have an F-350.
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Re: Is this a bad idea?

Thought I'd give an update to this thread. So last June I did drive across the country with a 16' foot trailer. I ended up finding a weight distribution hitch and I used an electronic break controller. The ride was great, Jeep handled it like a champ. At one point crossing the edge of the Salton Sea outside Salt Lake City there was a incredible cross wind. I saw one trailer, about the exact same size as mine blown over on the side of the road with a guy standing outside his truck scratching his head wondering what happened. I would have stopped because of the extreme crosswind, but realized his trailer was empty, so I continued on.

Going over some of the desert passes in Nevada caused the engine temp to get very close to red-lining. But it never did, so I just drove on nice an easy.

All in all, it was a great trip. I sold the trailer, WD hitch and break controller when I got out to OR. I sold it to my brother for a steal so the entire trailer setup for getting across the country only ended costing me about $1000+diesel costs...not too bad.
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Glad to hear it worked out!
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Thought I'd give an update to this thread. So last June I did drive across the country with a 16' foot trailer. I ended up finding a weight distribution hitch and I used an electronic break controller. The ride was great, Jeep handled it like a champ. At one point crossing the edge of the Salton Sea outside Salt Lake City there was a incredible cross wind. I saw one trailer, about the exact same size as mine blown over on the side of the road with a guy standing outside his truck scratching his head wondering what happened. I would have stopped because of the extreme crosswind, but realized his trailer was empty, so I continued on.

Going over some of the desert passes in Nevada caused the engine temp to get very close to red-lining. But it never did, so I just drove on nice an easy.

All in all, it was a great trip. I sold the trailer, WD hitch and break controller when I got out to OR. I sold it to my brother for a steal so the entire trailer setup for getting across the country only ended costing me about $1000+diesel costs...not too bad.
I did a 5200 mile road trip last summer towing a 5700 lb TT out west with a lot of mountain driving.

Attached is the results of going up Baker grade heading toward Vegas. Max water temp was 240 degrees read on a scan gauge. Very close to the red area of the temp gauge.

Had numerous times when it got close to the red area during the trip. IMO I think the cooling system is designed on the low side, especially for towing.

It sure could use a larger radiator and cooling capacity. If towing in high temps, 90-100, at max tow capacity, 7200 lbs., I think this could be a serious problem.

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We've towed our 4800lb travel trailer in 100+ degree temps on decent grades and it did the same. Went up to just below the "red zone" and then stayed there, with oil temps around 245. The good news is that both the water and oil temps went back down to normal fairly quickly afterward, which demonstrates the system works well.

And diesels need to run hotter than gas engines.
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We've towed our 4800lb travel trailer in 100+ degree temps on decent grades and it did the same. Went up to just below the "red zone" and then stayed there, with oil temps around 245. The good news is that both the water and oil temps went back down to normal fairly quickly afterward, which demonstrates the system works well.

And diesels need to run hotter than gas engines.
Just a little scary watching that needle sit at the red for a long time. Your right, it does return to normal pretty quickly once the load is reduced.

But it sure tows great and a very comfortable vehicle when not towing.
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