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Jeep and Audi share same 3.0 diesel?

May sound stupid but does the audi q5 share the same engine as the jeep? I haven't been able to find much of anything addressing this or common components.

I've also contacted APR to see what they say and whether or not they plan on supporting this platform if it is indeed different. Would be cool if some of the parts are cross compatible as they already have parts out for the q5.
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Re: Jeep and Audi share same 3.0 diesel?

No.
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Re: Jeep and Audi share same 3.0 diesel?

The 3.0L diesel is built by VM Motori SpA which is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Fiat.

In the US, this engine is ONLY available on the Jeep Grand Cherokee and the RAM 1500.

In foreign markets, this engine may be available in various FCA vehicles (Jeep, Chrysler, Dodge, RAM, Fiat, Lancia, etc.)

The Audi diesel engines are built by the VW group and are used in various Audi, VW, and Seat, etc. vehicles.

They may utilize some of the same components from third party manufacturers like Bosch, etc. but they are different engines and any after market products are not likely to be interchangable.
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Re: Jeep and Audi share same 3.0 diesel?

The VM Motori A630 motor:
2011+ VM Motori V6 Diesel Engines

The Audi\VW 3.0 V6 diesel:
New diesel engines on the way for Audi
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Re: Jeep and Audi share same 3.0 diesel?

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The 3.0L diesel is built by VM Motori SpA which is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Fiat.

In the US, this engine is ONLY available on the Jeep Grand Cherokee and the RAM 1500.

In foreign markets, this engine may be available in various FCA vehicles (Jeep, Chrysler, Dodge, RAM, Fiat, Lancia, etc.)

The Audi diesel engines are built by the VW group and are used in various Audi, VW, and Seat, etc. vehicles.

They may utilize some of the same components from third party manufacturers like Bosch, etc. but they are different engines and any after market products are not likely to be interchangable.
Thanks for the info. Figured there would be threads about it if there were enough common components to make parts cross compatible....

Hopefully more major performance companies will get behind this platform in the future.
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Re: Jeep and Audi share same 3.0 diesel?

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Thanks for the info. Figured there would be threads about it if there were enough common components to make parts cross compatible....

Hopefully more major performance companies will get behind this platform in the future.
If you are in the USofA, contact Gale Banks.

... or wait till VW buys Jeep and drops in one of those 5+ litre diesels with over 500 HP and 7-900 lb/ft torque.
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Re: Jeep and Audi share same 3.0 diesel?

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May sound stupid but does the audi q5 share the same engine as the jeep? I haven't been able to find much of anything addressing this or common components.

I've also contacted APR to see what they say and whether or not they plan on supporting this platform if it is indeed different. Would be cool if some of the parts are cross compatible as they already have parts out for the q5.
Fortunately, they don't. Look at the VW/Audi V6 diesel pic in the link - the camshaft chains are at the rear of the engine! New timing chains means pulling the entire engine instead of just the front timing covers.

VM design is far better in terms of serviceability IMO.
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Re: Jeep and Audi share same 3.0 diesel?

Trying to take some cues from BMW I see....
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Re: Jeep and Audi share same 3.0 diesel?

The VM design is world class according to Gale Banks. Going by memory...the block is extremely over built with 6 bolt mains and an iron graphite "girdle" for extra strength. The connecting rods are beefier as are the other internals. It is reliable to 650 HP according to Banks. Any block that can support 215hp per liter in stock form is a beast. That's amazing for a 3.0 diesel IMO. That would equate to 1200hp from a Hemi block with no internal upgrades...
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