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On long road trips to remote places, especially off of Interstates and US Highways, I will pay very close attention to what the pumps say thanks to this thread. Off road diesel, never heard of such a thing!

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On long road trips to remote places, especially off of Interstates and US Highways, I will pay very close attention to what the pumps say thanks to this thread. Off road diesel, never heard of such a thing!
Off Road Diesel - you can get it around here pretty commonly for use....off road. It doesn't pay the highway tax at the pump.
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Re: Just filled up with Off Road Diesel

here in NYS the use of off road (dyed) in an on highway vehicle is taken very seriously. The IRS is who conducts the checks. fine is $1000 for every gallon of the fuel tank capacity! Friend of mine got caught, had 2-120 gallon tanks on his truck! he did not pay a $240,000 fine, but paid enough that he is no longer in the trucking business. as someone else said, no jeep or pickup truck will ever get tested, the only problem would be if they actually watched you pump the fuel into your vehicle. I work in the petroleum industry, and use of dyed fuel will cause no harm to the vehicle, actually, years ago there was a product called "diesel king" which was a red dye that claimed to turn regular diesel into premium fuel, it was available in cans to be added when fueling, or was sold to fuel stations pre mixed into the diesel.
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Re: Just filled up with Off Road Diesel

I own a skid loader and I notice a difference when I run ULSD Off Road Diesel vs On road ULSD Diesel. The difference is the off road fuel tends to smoke more out of the tail pipe. I was also told that the off road diesel may not have the additives that are in standard on road ULSD to help with lubricity that went away with the Standard Diesel fuel that went away around 2010 before ULSD was mandated.
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Re: Just filled up with Off Road Diesel

I use on road ULSD in my Kubota and it works just fine. Was told I should use off road but I can't find it readily available here.
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Off Road Diesel - you can get it around here pretty commonly for use....off road. It doesn't pay the highway tax at the pump.
Bumping this thread as a good reminder to always check the pump label. If there is no label, ask before pumping. I've had to ask before, near where I live, in Hollister CA - so, not a very rural area. After asking I wrote a note on the receipt about the discussion, in case of problems. Fortunately there weren't any.

Back in March 2016, I was on a road trip out in a rural area of western Kansas and it was late at night. I'm pretty sure I was on US-83 heading north from Liberal KS up to Oakley KS to catch I-70, and somewhere near the small town of Friend KS. The gas station right on the highway had farm diesel right beside ULSD. Read those labels carefully!

My daughter borrowed my JGC for Thanksgiving for a 1,500 mile trip, and I certainly drilled that into her! She did well, and out in the sticks of Arizona there was no pump label, and she asked. Good girl.
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Police screw you here for that but then no filling station sells it either. They are ALWAYS doing spot checks on 4x4, vans & trucks at the side of the road but I am in an agricultural area. They sit at the side of the road, flag you in, dip the tank & if you're using red diesel, tow the truck to a compound then crush it after a week if you've not collected & paid a massive fine
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Police screw you here for that but then no filling station sells it either. They are ALWAYS doing spot checks on 4x4, vans & trucks at the side of the road but I am in an agricultural area. They sit at the side of the road, flag you in, dip the tank & if you're using red diesel, tow the truck to a compound then crush it after a week if you've not collected & paid a massive fine
Remind us again where you're at so we can stay away. Sounds like a hassle even when you're running the correct fuel.
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Remind us again where you're at so we can stay away. Sounds like a hassle even when you're running the correct fuel.
I live on some dodgy little island in Europe called the UK. That comment wasn't 100% accurate; sorry I was rather drunk. The impound the car & fine you up to approx $650 at current exchange, plus the sum of the equivalent fuel in unpaid taxes. If you don't / can't pay, then then recover costs through court which can result in a 2 year sentence.

They do impound and scrap cars but thats for if the car or driver is illegal rather than the fuel such as no insurance, no tax, no drivers license etc but for the fuel it seems more likely to just be a fine or potentially auction the car to recover costs owed to the government in unpaid duty I believe.

As the only vehicles allowed to use red diesel here are agricultural suck as tractors etc, I understand why they do it, but then if our fuel wasn't so heavily taxed over here, less people would do it. We are currently paying $6 per US gallon for diesel
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I live on some dodgy little island in Europe called the UK. That comment wasn't 100% accurate; sorry I was rather drunk. The impound the car & fine you up to approx $650 at current exchange, plus the sum of the equivalent fuel in unpaid taxes. If you don't / can't pay, then then recover costs through court which can result in a 2 year sentence.

They do impound and scrap cars but thats for if the car or driver is illegal rather than the fuel such as no insurance, no tax, no drivers license etc but for the fuel it seems more likely to just be a fine or potentially auction the car to recover costs owed to the government in unpaid duty I believe.

As the only vehicles allowed to use red diesel here are agricultural suck as tractors etc, I understand why they do it, but then if our fuel wasn't so heavily taxed over here, less people would do it. We are currently paying $6 per US gallon for diesel
We pay about $4 /US gallon here in AB, Canada.
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Anywhere from 2.05 to 2.79 a US gallon here in TX.
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Re: Just filled up with Off Road Diesel

Worried only about a diesel getting dipped and the authorities not even knowing your JGC is a diesel? How 'bout if you have a 3.6 or a Hemi .....there's always 'Purple Gas'. It was 93octand when it was rare to find anything over 91.
There was a fuel station near Fairmont Hot Springs that sold it at the regular pump island for boats...was nice getting it for the motorcycle....and once or twice for the truck. Never worried about getting dipped.
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