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Old 01-18-2014, 10:56 PM
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Yes that is my JGC which will be sitting over 2 weeks since I can't come get it until the 4th. Doing whatever I can to distract myself ha ha.
I see yours is there so congrats...
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Re: Maintenance Schedule

Don't forget tire rotations every 5k...not a big expense, until you wear out a pair of tires.
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Re: Maintenance Schedule

Well I might be rethinking my original post. Seems like every fluid used in this vehicle is very expensive with few alternatives. Coolant 26 a gallon, power steering fluid 20+ a bottle that might be 16 oz and probably less, even the oil in the transfer case and differentials are not standard and pretty expensive per quart. Same for the transmission fluid which the more I read the important it seems to be that you should change it out at 40 to 50K.

Oh the coolant is one thing that you really need to pay attention too. It cannot be mixed with any other type of coolant or you end up with jello in your system. They specifically mention Prestone that says can be used with any antifreeze. It cannot.

Oh the brake fluid seems to be standard. Oh well, I still have time before the big stuff starts becoming due.
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Old 01-23-2014, 05:20 PM
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Well I might be rethinking my original post. Seems like every fluid used in this vehicle is very expensive with few alternatives. Coolant 26 a gallon, power steering fluid 20+ a bottle that might be 16 oz and probably less, even the oil in the transfer case and differentials are not standard and pretty expensive per quart. Same for the transmission fluid which the more I read the important it seems to be that you should change it out at 40 to 50K.

Oh the coolant is one thing that you really need to pay attention too. It cannot be mixed with any other type of coolant or you end up with jello in your system. They specifically mention Prestone that says can be used with any antifreeze. It cannot.

Oh the brake fluid seems to be standard. Oh well, I still have time before the big stuff starts becoming due.
Where are you seeing that it may be good to change the transmission fluid in this 8spd ? I have always been a big believer in regular transmission fluid changes if you plan on keeping the vehicle for the long haul. I was a little shocked to see this statement in the owners manual a few months ago. I am not a big believer in fill for life fluids. Appreciate if you could point me in the direction of anything to read on fluid changes on this 8spd. I am not going to change it at 30k like I have on past cars but maybe a change at 100k with the plugs would be a good compromise.

"Under normal operating conditions, the fluid installed at
the factory will provide satisfactory lubrication for the
life of the vehicle.
Routine fluid and filter changes are not required. However,
change the fluid and filter if the fluid becomes
contaminated (with water, etc.), or if the transmission is
disassembled for any reason."
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Old 01-23-2014, 08:12 PM
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Re: Maintenance Schedule

Regarding the ZF 8 spd lifetime fluid is a great marketing tool but a poor maintenance tool. The ZF 8 spd takes Lifeguard 8 fluid and I for one will change what is in the pan out at 50K miles and the same interval following that. I have a good bit of experience with ZF transmissions and they are robust and well built transmissions. We have a good bit of time before needing to do that but I will do a DIY at that point...
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Regarding the ZF 8 spd lifetime fluid is a great marketing tool but a poor maintenance tool. The ZF 8 spd takes Lifeguard 8 fluid and I for one will change what is in the pan out at 50K miles and the same interval following that. I have a good bit of experience with ZF transmissions and they are robust and well built transmissions. We have a good bit of time before needing to do that but I will do a DIY at that point...
So is it a drop the pan and replace fluid and filter? It has no dip stick how do you fill back up and know how much to put in?

The stuff is $30 a liter, what is it liquid gold lol
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Re: Maintenance Schedule

DIY? My Jetta had a sealed transmission and it was my understanding that you had to have everything at the right temperature and fill it to the exact amount of you could have problems. When I had it changed they said it would be an all day thing because they had warm the transmission before they did the work.

As far as links, I was just googling about oil changes and fluid changes. I was checking out the lubes sold by BND and that led to other forums and articles. I did not find anyone who said that it was a good idea not to change the fluid in the transmission. I also read enough posts that suggest changing the fluid in the transfer case and differentials early on. The logic sound good, so that is one more thing I am considering.

Fun2drive hopefully you can clear this up and tell us how changing the fluid is a DIY type of project.
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Old 01-24-2014, 10:51 AM
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Re: Maintenance Schedule

Drain the old LG8 out after first opening the fill port. Then refill with new LF8 to weeping. Put the fill plug in and start the engine and allow the temp of the fluid meaning just measure the temp in the pan between 80-120F. With the engine running open the fill port and continue to pump in new LG8 until weeping again. Put the fill plug in and call it a day.
By the way the factory ZF8 is located here for less than 20 bucks per liter
LifeGuard 8 Transmission Fluid

Replacing the integral pan/filter isn't something I plan to do until I am well north of 120K miles. YMMV but as I said I have a lot of experience with ZF transmissions and I hope to keep mine running fine well north of 300K miles or more...
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I probably sound dumb but what do you mean by weeping. I am guessing that means until it is right at the top of the fill hole. Just a hair over?
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Old 01-24-2014, 02:47 PM
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Yes just starting to come out the fill port...
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Drain the old LG8 out after first opening the fill port. Then refill with new LF8 to weeping. Put the fill plug in and start the engine and allow the temp of the fluid meaning just measure the temp in the pan between 80-120F. With the engine running open the fill port and continue to pump in new LG8 until weeping again. Put the fill plug in and call it a day.
By the way the factory ZF8 is located here for less than 20 bucks per liter
LifeGuard 8 Transmission Fluid

Replacing the integral pan/filter isn't something I plan to do until I am well north of 120K miles. YMMV but as I said I have a lot of experience with ZF transmissions and I hope to keep mine running fine well north of 300K miles or more...
How are you measuring the temp at the pan? Using the EVIC, or are you using a heat gun at the pan?
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Re: Maintenance Schedule

Thanks Fun2drive, not sure I would give that a try but it really is something to think about, when I changed the fluid in my TDI it was not an inexpensive project.

Less than a week to go for you, imagine this weekend is going to be one of the longest ones in your life. I personally cannot wait to see your posts after you pick it up.
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