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Maintenance Schedule

I finally got around to reading the maintenance schedule and WOW. Pretty much just change the oil when it says its life is over and air and AC filters and you are good to go. Oh transfer case checks and replace oil at 100K.

No more timing belt no more Transmission servicing every 40 or 50K. Sucks that the oil change interval is set by the vehicle and anyone who knows I wonder if you are good with the warranty if you change before 10K. I decided to look to at another vehicle when my Jetta hit 80 K and I knew I was looking at at least $1K for timing belt, transmission servicing and of course since taking the belt off is a bi^(h you always do the water pump need it or not. I knew the JGC did not have a timing belt which was a real pain since I drive over 30K a year and in the older Jetta that meant a change every year and a half. In any case annual maintenance was expensive but to me still worth it because Diesel power is like a drug to me. So the more I learn about this vehicle the more I am liking it.
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Old 01-15-2014, 04:44 PM
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Re: Maintenance Schedule

Reducing maintenance costs has become as important as good gas mileage with many manufacturers. In some ways it took Chrysler too long to catch up, but I think they have finally arrived. For '14 the finally changed the HEMI spark plug interval to 100,000, up from 30,000 miles.

It's nice to see a thread started on the topic of what's good about their Jeep.
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I finally got around to reading the maintenance schedule and WOW. Pretty much just change the oil when it says its life is over and air and AC filters and you are good to go. Oh transfer case checks and replace oil at 100K.
I've got a strange feeling that the exhaust system is going to be our maintenance hog with DPF ash cleanup/replacement @ 70K-80K and a SCR Catalyst replacement around the 100K, and maybe even turbo overhaul. I hope I'm proven wrong!
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I've got a strange feeling that the exhaust system is going to be our maintenance hog with DPF ash cleanup/replacement @ 70K-80K and a SCR Catalyst replacement around the 100K, and maybe even turbo overhaul. I hope I'm proven wrong!
Don't forget our $140 oil changes.
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Re: Maintenance Schedule

An oil change in the TDI was not cheap either, the oil for the modern diesel is not standard so naturally you end up paying more. With the Jetta for years it was almost impossible to even buy it at a local store so if you wanted to change your own oil you had to buy it at a dealer. I drive mostly highway miles so I do not think that I will have any problems with ash or the catalytic convertor. The older Jetta used to have an ERG that would clog up pretty regularly. If you were so inclined you could take it out and clean it which was pretty time consuming but could be done. For people like me you just got a refurbished one and paid a few hundred to have it replaced. With the low sulfur fuel that went away. Time will tell but 70K is pretty far off.
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I finally got around to reading the maintenance schedule and WOW. Pretty much just change the oil when it says its life is over and air and AC filters and you are good to go. Oh transfer case checks and replace oil at 100K.

No more timing belt no more Transmission servicing every 40 or 50K. Sucks that the oil change interval is set by the vehicle and anyone who knows I wonder if you are good with the warranty if you change before 10K. I decided to look to at another vehicle when my Jetta hit 80 K and I knew I was looking at at least $1K for timing belt, transmission servicing and of course since taking the belt off is a bi^(h you always do the water pump need it or not. I knew the JGC did not have a timing belt which was a real pain since I drive over 30K a year and in the older Jetta that meant a change every year and a half. In any case annual maintenance was expensive but to me still worth it because Diesel power is like a drug to me. So the more I learn about this vehicle the more I am liking it.
I saw that maintenance list with my new Cherokee limited w/ tow. I have to say it makes me a bit nervous but who am I to an engineer.
The Transmission must have some built in sensor that will tell you if you start to burn up the fluid. Maybe service Trans light? There is no way to check it!
All my other jeeps had separate severe and tow maintenance lists to follow. But of course you now go 10/100 on coolant.

I have heard after the first oil change its as you want. Just avoid wasteful changes. That's what I will do. 2-3 x's a year depending on mileage. No way 1 year/10,000 miles.
I don't care what they say oil does get dirty. and dirt produces engine wear.
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Re: Maintenance Schedule

The last two models of Jetta had sealed transmissions. No way to check or add fluid. Said it is good for the life of the vehicle. Wonder how long they think that is? I think buying the best oil filter is every bit as important the oil. I do not imagine I will be subjecting mine to very many extreme conditions so I hope they mean what they say.
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The last two models of Jetta had sealed transmissions. No way to check or add fluid. Said it is good for the life of the vehicle. Wonder how long they think that is? I think buying the best oil filter is every bit as important the oil. I do not imagine I will be subjecting mine to very many extreme conditions so I hope they mean what they say.
With towing a 1800 lb. fishing boat, but not close to the max. limit, I do think that Trans fluid/filter, axle, and transfer case do need changing before "life". That fact alone concerns me. Normal car and normal driving for life I can understand.
The same goes as you mentioned. A quality oil filter is important.
Again I don't know if I am willing to go 6 months to a year between oil changes. I have seen how dirty oil can get after only 4 months and 4k.
I'd rather change it 3x a year and be safe.
At least you can see the coolant and if that's looking bad change it. But even that 10/100 for change how does Chrysler avoid corrosion etc. in the cooling system for 10/100?
If Chrysler was going to back the drive train for Life I would agree with them.
That's one of the reasons I picked up a Max care lifetime. I am sure I will have this Jeep for at least 8-9 years so I am covered.
Maybe I'm old fashioned Jeep person, but basic fluid changes are needed.
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Re: Maintenance Schedule

That is a nice maintenance schedule isn't it. No more of that 30/60/90 crap. I kind of simplified it to this which assumes normal driving and 12K a year. I am a little old school on the oil change so a little more frequent then EVIC would say.

6K or about every 6 Months
Change oil/Filter

12K or about once a year
Rotate Tires
Change Wiper Blades

24K or about every two years
Change air filter
Change cabin filter

So that's it until you hit 100K where there is more to do. Definitely the easiest and cheapest maintenance schedule I have ever had on a car.
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Re: Maintenance Schedule

I plan to do oil analysis on mine for the first two changes which I am planning on 3000 miles then after that go 7-8K miles and see what the results are. I am confident that will allow me to go to 10K miles if all looks well to Blackstone.
There is no such thing as a sealed transmission.
ZF makes the higher torque model and I have in the past meaning close to 15 years changed the fluid in my ZF transmissions at 50K miles. ZF transmissions use Lifeguard 8 which can be purchased online.

I will also do the same with the transfer case and diffs.
Today's fluids are extremely good but in the end no dealer will deny you warranty for changing something too often.

My SuperDuty had to be changed every 5K miles and that took 15 qts and a filter that held 2 1/2 qts...

!0K miles for an OCI is outstanding for a diesel and a recognition this isn't your father's diesel...
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Re: Maintenance Schedule

Fun2drive,

I like the body work you did on your SuperDuty, damn if it doesn't look like a cherry red JGC. I did a double take flying through these threads. I say your name but no ford. That is some dealer that took all the pics for you.
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What about the fuel filters?
On my other VM Motori motor in my Jeep KJ CRD maintanence schedule called for every 24K miles and I always changed at 12K as by then the elements were extremely dirty. 'Course it's pretty dusty here. I plan to change these WK2 fuel filters every 15 to 20K miles....

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