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New Owner - Couple of Fueling/Smell Questions

Finally picked up a 2014 EcoDiesel Summit yesterday but have already got a couple of questions.

1) I have read a couple threads around different size nozzles, got that, understood. But, I had used about 1/8 of a tank on my way home from the dealership and passed through a town where Diesel was cheap so I figured I would top off (had to put gas in the other vehicle it took to get to the dealership). This was a terrible idea as Diesel wouldn't go into the tank, it just kept "overflowing". What was I doing wrong?

2) Because of #1, I now have Diesel fuel covering my felt fender liner. I believe because of this the vehicle smells of Fuel every time I have gotten in it since that accident. What is the best method for cleaning up the Diesel? Simple de-greaser? Something special? Need to get rid of the smell as my new vehicle doesn't even smell new.....
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Re: New Owner - Couple of Fueling/Smell Questions

1. Insert the nozzle all the way into the filler neck.
2. Not sure what to do about the spilled fuel.
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Re: New Owner - Couple of Fueling/Smell Questions

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1. Insert the nozzle all the way into the filler neck.
I feel like originally I had it 100% in there as I thought it went in very far, much farther than my gas powered vehicles ever had. But fair enough. I did read in one thread to never try and "top off" these vehicles. Clearly a learning curve.

I will see tonight what detailing product I have that will clean it up the best. Maybe between that and this nice warm breezy day we are having will dry it out.
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Re: New Owner - Couple of Fueling/Smell Questions

Never had an issue filling mine, you just have to make sure the nozzle is in far enough to open the spring loaded flap that's down in the neck a short way. It's a "natural" distance so I wouldn't think that would be an issue. I've never filled mine before dropping to a quarter tank or less, but I wouldn't think that would matter.

I guess I'd say try again, different pump, emptier tank, be careful and see what happens. If it's still an issue, maybe the filler neck is kinked somehow? Never heard of that issue on here, but maybe...

Diesel fuel is hard to clean up it know that, but I'm afraid I can't offer any advice either. You may end up having to replace the fender liner, it may be the easiest way.
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Re: New Owner - Couple of Fueling/Smell Questions

Engine degreaser will break down diesel fuel. The spray can type like "Gunk" should be OK. Soak it down, then rinse away with a strong detergent/water mix. Repeat numerous times. Diesel won't evaporate in a reasonable amount of time and will attract grime so I would recommend cleaning it soon.

I've not had diesel spew back while filling up and I do "top off" which is actually nearly impossible (compared to gas) due to the foaming but I often let it settle a few seconds then fill slowly until I become impatient and quit. It will usually hold a gallon more.
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Re: New Owner - Couple of Fueling/Smell Questions

Epicgc- You might have used a high flow diesel nozzle which is meant for commercial use and has a larger nozzle tip and higher pressure. I accidently did the same thing once, the l pump wasnt very well labeled and I wasn't paying much attention to the fact the nozzle was larger than normal. It stunk, so I went to a drive through car wash right after and the smell went away.
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Re: New Owner - Couple of Fueling/Smell Questions

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Epicgc- You might have used a high flow diesel nozzle which is meant for commercial use and has a larger nozzle tip and higher pressure. I accidently did the same thing once, the l pump wasnt very well labeled and I wasn't paying much attention to the fact the nozzle was larger than normal. It stunk, so I went to a drive through car wash right after and the smell went away.
It certainly was a standard size nozzle. I read the thread around the differences there and it was at a regular gas pump.

After using the fuel can plastic extension yesterday I saw where there is a 2nd flap down in the neck and am assuming I just didn't get it far enough down in there to open that flap. I have used almost half a tank and will give it another try at the end of the week probably.

Once I try some different detailing products I will see which removes the diesel from the liner the best. The smell in the cabin has subsided so I assume the breezy day we had here yesterday helped quite a bit. Just need to take something more than water to it.
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Re: New Owner - Couple of Fueling/Smell Questions

When I picked mine up, they filled the tank which overflowed just like yours. To make matters worst, they go it on their hands which then transferred to the seat belt. I used a pressure washer on the felt liner and tried lemon scented ammonia on the seat belt. Either of which didn't work too well. It finally went away after a week or so.
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The overflow happened once to me.

Short version: when it was cold once the automatic shut off didn't shut off. Fuel was back flowing out of the filler and the pump was still on and sending fuel.

Long version: This past February which was insanely cold I filled up at a station which I had been to before. The fuel was barely coming out, you could watch the price increase by the penny. It was 20 below zero so I set pump to fill on it's own and went and sat in the slightly warmer Jeep interior. Keeping an eye on the pump I suspected something was wrong when I put in more fuel than I thought would fill me up. Apparently the shutoff would not work at that low of a volume.

No idea if that had anything to do with it but it could have just a faulty pump handle.
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Re: New Owner - Couple of Fueling/Smell Questions

Dawn works great, also I keep a few latex gloves behind the fuel door, and wear one, one the hand that handles the nozzle, and just peel it off when done no mess, no smell. Also keep a few eyeglass cleaning pads in the glove box in case you need to wipe your hands or something.
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1st Fueling, How come it didn't fill all the way up?

So, just had my first fueling experience this morning. Of course just so happened I picked a pump that was broken. I then had to stop fueling to go to a different pump.

My real point is that at the 2nd pump it cut off what seemed early to me. I had read about the foaming of the diesel fuel and that it could make "topping off" difficult but what do I need to do to get a full tank? When I got back in the vehicle I was almost full but was somewhere between Full and 1/8 of a tank used.

Whats the secret to getting it filled to the top?
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