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Re: New TSB 009-006-15

Probably the best thing to do at this point is have it put on a flatbed and taken to a different dealer as these clowns seem to be incompetent monkeys on this engine. The fact they didn't have the tools was a huge red flag...they might not even have a real diesel tech.

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I am about 99% sure they don't. I got the story on how the service rep had to beg someone to take the job on. He even said that the tech all but guaranteed he would have to take it apart again to fix something at some point.

I am going to start calling around to find a dealer with a diesel tech and force FCA to set up the transfer at their cost. If I do it myself, I am 100% sure they won't pay me back and I want it marked on their records. Thanks for the idea.

Edit: First dealer I called doesn't seem to want to get involved or jump into the middle of this. Says my issue is with Chrysler (no Sh--!). I doubt I'll have better luck since my issue now is primarily back ordered parts. Not really something another dealer will be able to resolve any faster.
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Re: New TSB 009-006-15

My local dealer is getting approval right now to get this done. I know the diesel tech at this dealer and he's a real diesel tech/mech that knows whats up. I hope they give me a good rental lol
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My local dealer is getting approval right now to get this done. I know the diesel tech at this dealer and he's a real diesel tech/mech that knows whats up. I hope they give me a good rental lol
Just prepare yourself for it to take a while. The repair manual does not adequately describe the repair procedure at all. My dealer had to spend quite a bit of time just getting the vehicle broken down to start the repair which wasn't included in the manual. They dropped the whole engine and transmission out of the vehicle to remove the turbocharger to take the engine apart. I think we are probably the first people that have actually done this since it was published. Seems like Chrysler didn't do their job trying this out on an actual vehicle before they sent it out. Having a diesel tech will probably help but its getting the vehicle to the point where they can actually do the work that is so unclear and difficult. Good luck and hope they don't break the Cat Converter that's bolted onto the Turbo!
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Re: New TSB 009-006-15

In my case, it all went very smoothly once they got the parts. Dropped the Jeep off on a Wednesday and could have picked it up Saturday but was out of town. It has been about 2000 miles and it is still fine. I have towed about 5000lbs twice with it and it performed just fine. My only gripe is that they re-installed the wiring for my spots wrong, so I had to re-do that, but since it wasn't a stock item it was not a big deal. I just got my first P20EE code last week, so I have to start that procedure now. It is always something.
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Its apparently a second CAT that is connected directly to the Turbocharger. Who knew it had two?
That would be the Diesel Oxidation catalyst (DOC). I believe it's contained within the same can and upstream of the Diesel Particulate Filter. (DPF).

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Re: New TSB 009-006-15

Update: Day 47 (Saturday). Saga is finally complete for now. Head replacement complete. So far, it is running normal without lights or issue. Remains to be seen for how long. Still have yet to discuss compensation with Chrysler...

In terms of the repair, yes they ended up dropping the engine and transmission out of the bottom of the vehicle to complete the job. They started the process by going in from above, but it ended up being easier to drop the whole thing out. That requires a ton of work not included in the repair procedure for the TSB, so the tech had to just sort of figure it out. Thanks for nothing Chrysler.

What did me in was when they broke the CAT that is attached to the turbocharger. Took almost a month to get a new one. Hopefully they can get other's off without breaking it.

Again, only driven about 20 miles since I picked it up. I will certainly keep people posted on any updates or issues. I'm keeping my fingers crossed, but when this lease is up, I'm turning it in and never coming back to FCA. Good luck.
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Update: Day 47 (Saturday). Saga is finally complete for now. Head replacement complete. So far, it is running normal without lights or issue. Remains to be seen for how long. Still have yet to discuss compensation with Chrysler...

In terms of the repair, yes they ended up dropping the engine and transmission out of the bottom of the vehicle to complete the job. They started the process by going in from above, but it ended up being easier to drop the whole thing out. That requires a ton of work not included in the repair procedure for the TSB, so the tech had to just sort of figure it out. Thanks for nothing Chrysler.

What did me in was when they broke the CAT that is attached to the turbocharger. Took almost a month to get a new one. Hopefully they can get other's off without breaking it.

Again, only driven about 20 miles since I picked it up. I will certainly keep people posted on any updates or issues. I'm keeping my fingers crossed, but when this lease is up, I'm turning it in and never coming back to FCA. Good luck.
Wow, what an ordeal! I've still yet to confirm the part number on these replacement cylinder heads? Are the MY14 heads different from the MY15? Anybody have any information on what the differences are?

And for all the people jumping on VW right now over diesel emissions, it's the EPA who says you need your EGR to dump untreated, raw diesel soot (carbon) right back into your intake (and cylinder heads down the line,) to lower those NOx levels.
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Wow, what an ordeal! I've still yet to confirm the part number on these replacement cylinder heads? Are the MY14 heads different from the MY15? Anybody have any information on what the differences are?

And for all the people jumping on VW right now over diesel emissions, it's the EPA who says you need your EGR to dump untreated, raw diesel soot (carbon) right back into your intake (and cylinder heads down the line,) to lower those NOx levels.

Wait, doesn't the new Land Rover diesel use EGR that is taken after the DPF?
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Wait, doesn't the new Land Rover diesel use EGR that is taken after the DPF?
Yes, it's a low pressure EGR that uses exhaust gas after already having been treated first through the DPF.

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Unlike traditional High Pressure EGR systems, which recirculate gases directly from the exhaust manifold to inlet manifold at high pressure, the revised design takes gases at low pressure – after the DPF filter in the exhaust pipe – and feeds them back to the turbocharger inlet. From here they pass through an intercooler, resulting in a lower peak combustion temperature.

The higher the peak combustion temperature, the more NOx is produced, so the low pressure EGR system has the effect of reducing the harmful emissions contained by exhaust gases, by lowering the peak combustion temperature and improving efficiency.
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Re: New TSB 009-006-15

So I'm almost afraid to post this but I'll be knocking on wood as I do. I have a 14 with over 60k on it and, again knocking on wood, I haven't had a single issue aside from a bad starter. I purchased a max care that will expire at the same time as my original powertrain and my plan is to have this done when I'm close to that time/mileage and get the GDE at the same time so I don't coke up my new heads. I'm hoping some techs will have some experience in this matter by then so I'm not the guinea pig but there are very few ecodiesels in my neck of the woods it seems.
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We have 26k on ours with no issues at all.
However, I do add Power Services Diesel Kleen+ Cetane Boost to every other tank. And our motor does get a bit of a work out due to us towing a Travel Trailer for about 40 percent of our driving.
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