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New Wrangler to get EcoDiesel and ZF 8 speed transmission

This will be huge for a variety of reasons!
  1. Reiterates support for our EcoDiesel in our Grand Cherokee WK2 and the Ram trucks; more parts availability, aftermarket support, etc.
  2. With the GDE Hot Tune, 470 ft.lbs. torque in a Wrangler chassis, that's got to be a helluva off-road, rock-climbing, monster!
  3. Pushes back against the EPA and all of those anti-diesel people in this current Administration who want to push electric hybrid's and the horrible value proposition that goes along with their expensive battery packs that have to be replaced every 5 to 7 years
Next-gen Jeep Wrangler to get 8-speed automatic and 3.0-liter EcoDiesel - Autoblog

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Re: New Wrangler to get EcoDiesel and ZF 8 speed transmission

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= their expensive battery packs that have to be replaced every 5 to 7 years

I'm not a hybrid supporter, but the packs definitely do not have to be replaced that often. In fact, most manufacturers warranty the battery longer than that.

Awesome news on the ecodiesel Wrangler. I can't wait to see it.
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I'm not a hybrid supporter, but the packs definitely do not have to be replaced that often. In fact, most manufacturers warranty the battery longer than that.

Awesome news on the ecodiesel Wrangler. I can't wait to see it.
The ecodiesel wrangler will be sweet.

Correct on the hybrid batteries. Hyundai's are guaranteed for life, Toyota is 8 yr./100K mile warranty and typically will last the life of the vehicle.
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Re: New Wrangler to get EcoDiesel and ZF 8 speed transmission

What's the weight difference between the Motori and the 6-cyl gasser? I'm guessing that's gonna be one heavy front end for a Wrangler, particularly if you add a winch...
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Re: New Wrangler to get EcoDiesel and ZF 8 speed transmission

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What's the weight difference between the Motori and the 6-cyl gasser? I'm guessing that's gonna be one heavy front end for a Wrangler, particularly if you add a winch...
172lbs more. 498lbs for the L630 vs 326lbs for the PUG. It's just slightly heavier than the 5.7.

FYI, that article is from March 2015.
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172lbs more. 498lbs for the L630 vs 326lbs for the PUG. It's just slightly heavier than the 5.7.

FYI, that article is from March 2015.
Yeah, last years article.
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Re: New Wrangler to get EcoDiesel and ZF 8 speed transmission

I could see myself passing the Grand Cherokee ecodiesel down to the wif and sporting a 2 dr ecodiesel wrangler. That would be a sweet ride!
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Re: New Wrangler to get EcoDiesel and ZF 8 speed transmission

Where do the spent battery packs end up when they are finished with their useful life?
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The ecodiesel wrangler will be sweet.

Correct on the hybrid batteries. Hyundai's are guaranteed for life, Toyota is 8 yr./100K mile warranty and typically will last the life of the vehicle.
There is no battery that will last for life, don't be silly. Even if Hyundai gives the original owner a lifetime warranty of the battery pack, you can bet it's only for the original owner and they will only replace the battery pack once. The fact of the matter is that the battery packs will only last 5-7 years realistically, (maybe 8 or 9 in ideal conditions,) and then they have to be replaced, at a cost likely to exceed that of a new engine. ($10k+) There goes you resale value (read: virtually no resale market for Hybrid vehicles with original battery packs,) and there goes your financial argument for buying a hybrid in the first place. Heat kills batteries, whether you use the battery or not. Just sitting in your garage in Texas or Arizona in the Summer time is going to zap the lifespan out of your hyrbid battery.

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172lbs more. 498lbs for the L630 vs 326lbs for the PUG. It's just slightly heavier than the 5.7.

FYI, that article is from March 2015.
Try this one; the first article I recently saw said they have now confirmed this. I'm surprised it's not a smaller four cylinder turbo diesel, but I'm thinking Jeep didn't want to take the risk of stand-alone smaller diesel for the Wrangler platform, especially when they had the EcoDiesel ready to go. Will be interesting to see where they mount the DEF harness; they didn't exactly find a stellar location to mount that (watch out for puddles,) on the WK2. Update: EcoDiesel Engine Confirmed - First Look : 2018 Jeep Wrangler JL in Heavy Camouflage

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Where do the spent battery packs end up when they are finished with their useful life?
They can be recycled, but even that is not cheap and it's certainly doesn't meet the definition of "renewable." All the while you're recharging your hybrid battery at home, with electricity coming from your local power grid, more than likely coming from what, a coal-burning power plant? Or maybe even nuclear? Oh yeah, that's green, isn't it?
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Re: New Wrangler to get EcoDiesel and ZF 8 speed transmission

Chevy is also offering a 4-cylinder diesel in the Colorado pickups. It's not really and "all new" engine as the GM press release says since that engine has been used outside the US for years.
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