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Old 02-27-2015, 07:46 AM
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Oil Change Concern

So, decided to crack the seal last night and change the oil at 9,700 miles with 4% left on the EVIC.

While doing so I was looking everything over and noticed oil build-up in the air intake pipe. There was even some in the end of the removable elbow section. Anyone else noticed this issue?

Can't say I have ever seen this in any other vehicle I have owned.

I will do a search but has anyone gotten a working catch can going in this forum? The only guy I have seen say he has something working is on the Ram and it was reasonable modification to do so. Suggestions?

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Re: Oil Change Concern

How are you driving it? Short hopping it or running her 30 minutes or more?-Rockydee
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How are you driving it? Short hopping it or running her 30 minutes or more?-Rockydee
Spends its life on the highway about 97% of the time is at 45MPH or faster.
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While doing so I was looking everything over and noticed oil build-up in the air intake pipe. There was even some in the end of the removable elbow section. Anyone else noticed this issue?
Hooray for PCV. Thank the EPA.

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I will do a search but has anyone gotten a working catch can going in this forum?
Images of the oil in these hoses and discussions of catch cans are in several threads in this subforum. For reference, there is no catch can "kit" available on the market for our EcoDiesel platform.

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How are you driving it? Short hopping it or running her 30 minutes or more?-Rockydee
This is going to happen regardless of usage pattern unless a catch can is installed or "more significant" warranty-voiding changes are made. Just think about the coking of the turbo and the intake that will happen, again thanks to the EPA.

PCV/EGR/DPF/SCR delete would do wonders for our engine's longevity, power, fuel economy, and reliability.
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Hooray for PCV. Thank the EPA.



Images of the oil in these hoses and discussions of catch cans are in several threads. For reference, there is no "kit" catch can available on the market for our platform.



This is going to happen regardless of usage pattern unless a catch can is installed or "more significant" warranty-voiding changes are made. Just think about the coking of the turbo and the intake that will happen, again thanks to the EPA.

PCV/EGR/DPF/SCR delete would do wonders for our engine's longevity, power, and fuel economy.
This just makes me want to go back to an LR4 with the 5.0 V8. No issues there! Just spend more in fuel....
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Re: Oil Change Concern

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Hooray for PCV. Thank the EPA.



Images of the oil in these hoses and discussions of catch cans are in several threads in this subforum. For reference, there is no catch can "kit" available on the market for our EcoDiesel platform.



This is going to happen regardless of usage pattern unless a catch can is installed or "more significant" warranty-voiding changes are made. Just think about the coking of the turbo and the intake that will happen, again thanks to the EPA.

PCV/EGR/DPF/SCR delete would do wonders for our engine's longevity, power, fuel economy, and reliability.
Oh I hear ya. I'm here gathering intel before I trade in my Rubi and buy a GC diesel. I think the powertrain is great, but the emissions system is gonna be the deal killer for me I think. I can deal with installing a can, however plugging up an EGR system and risking warranty issues isn't worth it. Until someone comes out with a tune that can be reversed and leave no trace if I have to go back to the dealer. I'll keep the Rubi I think. Don't get me wrong there are plenty of happy campers here, but the last thing I need is a $60K headache, and I got that kind of luck.-Rockydee
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What you see is pretty normal on a diesel engine. My Ford Superduty had the same thing and ran find when I sold it at 180K miles. Never used oil just some in the intercooler to intake. No big deal very reliable truck so I think what you see is not out of the ordinary but I would love to see a pic or two to see if I am understanding what you are saying...
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So, decided to crack the seal last night and change the oil at 9,700 miles with 4% left on the EVIC.

While doing so I was looking everything over and noticed oil build-up in the air intake pipe. There was even some in the end of the removable elbow section. Anyone else noticed this issue?

Can't say I have ever seen this in any other vehicle I have owned.

I will do a search but has anyone gotten a working catch can going in this forum? The only guy I have seen say he has something working is on the Ram and it was reasonable modification to do so. Suggestions?
Here is my solution.

Quick and easy, no warranty issues as I can remove it in minutes.

oil catch can

It catches a teaspoon or more of oil every 1,000klms (600 miles), and has kept the intake almost clean of oil, big difference to previous to the catch can going on.
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Here is my solution.

Quick and easy, no warranty issues as I can remove it in minutes.

oil catch can

It catches a teaspoon or more of oil every 1,000klms (600 miles), and has kept the intake almost clean of oil, big difference to previous to the catch can going on.
Cya
Any problems with a check engine light? I think the US pollution system is different. Anybody here using a can with no check engine light? I like the fact that if can be taken right off with no problem. You did nice clean install job too.

Is your EGR still hooked up? Is the can alone enough and the EGR can stay hooked up? Sorry for all the ?'s-Rockydee

PS-How are the heater hoses holding up? They do make oil resistant hoses, just thought I'd toss that out there.
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Any problems with a check engine light? I think the US pollution system is different. Anybody here using a can with no check engine light? I like the fact that if can be taken right off with no problem. You did nice clean install job too.

Is your EGR still hooked up? Is the can alone enough and the EGR can stay hooked up? Sorry for all the ?'s-Rockydee

PS-How are the heater hoses holding up? They do make oil resistant hoses, just thought I'd toss that out there.
I doubt there would be any difference on the PCV with US vehicles. It's simply out of the engine (front left camshaft oil separator) through the rubber hose to the air box, which leads in to the turbo.
On my set up there is no added resistance, no bottle necks or anything like that, and definitely no error codes. Heater hoses are fine after about 10 months since fitting, no sign of any issues. (Very Cheap and easy to replace of I find any degradation at some later point.)

Unfortunately I still have the EGR hooked up, longer term I'm chasing ways of blocking that, but it will need some software adjustments to achieve. There are a few aftermarket tune experts who offer EGR delete, but I'm a bit "gunshy" while the vehicle is in warranty. Same with the DPF.
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Re: Oil Change Concern

@Futuresystem Thanks for posting your catch can opportunity. Looks like no one from the states has been able to replicate your success?

I will try to take the air intake apart this evening again and take pictures of the oil inside the intake pipe. I wiped as much up as I could but I drove ~500 miles since then so hopefully there is some back there.

Larger issue I seem to have at the moment is in ~900 miles I have gone through 2 gallons of DEF fluid. Never since owning the vehicle has it consumed that much in that many miles.
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Unfortunately I still have the EGR hooked up, longer term I'm chasing ways of blocking that, but it will need some software adjustments to achieve. There are a few aftermarket tune experts who offer EGR delete, but I'm a bit "gunshy" while the vehicle is in warranty. Same with the DPF.
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That's a concern of mine too. The rub is waiting till after the warranty is up lets that crap get a strong foothold, i'd rather deal with it early on. Unfortunately I haven't come across any concrete solutions that i'd be willing to take a chance on. So I'm sitting tight on the sidelines asking around. Keep us updated. Too bad there isn't a way to reverse the EGR delete in the event of a warranty issue, that couldn't be traced before you bring it in. -Rockydee.
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