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Oil test?

Has anyone had their oil checked for contaminants and durability, or whatever it's called, at the 10k mile interval? I just did my own oil change at 10,091 miles. The filter and oil were both jet black. I don't know what the dealership quality of the filter or oil are but I was shocked at how black it was. Is this thing really meant to make it 10k miles? I used the Pennzoil Ultra on this round with a filter Mahle filter , something like that, I bought off amazon. I did notice the o-ring was in a different location but seems to fit just fine. Wondering if maybe I should change filters more often or if what I saw is normal. Decided to order two fuel filter to replace tomorrow

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Re: Oil test?

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Has anyone had their oil checked for contaminants and durability, or whatever it's called, at the 10k mile interval? I just did my own oil change at 10,091 miles. The filter and oil were both jet black. I don't know what the dealership quality of the filter or oil are but I was shocked at how black it was. Is this thing really meant to make it 10k miles? I used the Pennzoil Ultra on this round with a filter Mahle filter , something like that, I bought off amazon. I did notice the o-ring was in a different location but seems to fit just fine. Wondering if maybe I should change filters more often or if what I saw is normal. Decided to order two fuel filter to replace tomorrow
I would expect jet black that is to long to go on any type of oil, I say about 5,000
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I would expect jet black that is to long to go on any type of oil, I say about 5,000
So the people who design the engine and set the oil requirements for change and type of oil to maintain the warranty are complete idiots?
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Re: Oil test?

No, but look at the conditions on which to reach this mileage no dust perfect temp,no hard cold starting, no super hot temps, no long idle time, no towing. That's all I mean
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No, but look at the conditions on which to reach this mileage no dust perfect temp,no hard cold starting, no super hot temps, no long idle time, no towing. That's all I mean
The EVIC takes into account all those conditions except for dust and unless the OP ignored the warning, it should be OK to go with what it recommends.
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I would expect jet black that is to long to go on any type of oil, I say about 5,000
Oil turns jet black guickly, my first oil change preformed at 1600 miles.
Oil was jet black, does not mean oil is not protecting motor.
Number of people on this forum have had Blackstone labs test oil after 10K miles. Lab tests came back oil still protecting motor.
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Re: Oil test?

Oil should not be clear coming out should be black trapped dirt,just saying would never go 10 k that's all your choice. Not mine
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Re: Oil test?

The oil is meant to turn black in a diesel, means it is doing its job. When it doesn't turn black you have a problem.
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The oil is meant to turn black in a diesel, means it is doing its job. When it doesn't turn black you have a problem.
Yeah, after an oil change on the EcoDiesel the new oil becomes black almost immediately.

Everything is fine with that. I always send in my oil for Blackstone analysis during changes.
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Re: Oil test?

The soot in the oil is a very good stain, even a very small amount left over during a change will stain the new oil very quickly.
As Roadkill does, the only true way to check how your oil is going is with an analysis.
Many different aspects in an oil to consider, for example it is impossible to know what the TBN is from looking or feeling, has to be done through an analysis, and it is one of the key factors on when you need to change your oil.
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I would expect jet black that is to long to go on any type of oil, I say about 5,000
There's a lot of misinformation in this thread and it's mind blowing. Every single person who has had their oil analyzed by Blackstone shows that the oil is good till at least 12000. Blackstone is a professional oil testing company with an incredible reputation. 10,000 is the interval from the manufacturer. The oil is going to be dark the second you put new oil in. I don't know if it's a lot of first time diesel owners or not, but you're not"dodging any bullets" or "avoiding a fast one being pulled on you by the dealer" by changing your oil at 1600 miles or every 5000. You're only wasting your money and I don't think any one who is reading this for any serious kind of advice should be taking that as gospel. Save yourself the money and take your kids for ice cream instead
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it is impossible to know what the TBN is from looking or feeling, has to be done through an analysis, and it is one of the key factors on when you need to change your oil.
Yes, but I want to expand on that point: I continue to get the Blackstone analysis with every oil change, but I no longer pay the extra fee for TBN because every single published Blackstone result we've seen on this forum indicates that there is plenty of TBN left--even at 10,000 miles--on both the Mobil1 ESP & Pennzoil (Ultra/Platinum) Euro L. If I were to try a new MS-11106 spec oil I'd probably get the TBN again for a few changes, but for now I'm satisfied using Mobil1 ESP.

Other normal, harmless things about this diesel that should not alarm you:
* "Cat urine" smell from the exhaust.
* Your garage occasionally smelling like burning "something" coming from the Jeep a few hours after you park it if it was in the middle of a silent regen.
* High pitched whine for a minute or so after you shut down the Jeep.
* The unchanging "100%" number on the DEF gauge screen on EVIC. Some FCA UI designer failed to realize that the standard approach is to use "E" and "F" rather than a number if the intention is to indicate ends of a scale as opposed to displaying a current reading.
* Apparently, the "4WD Shift In Progress" message on EVIC when you start the vehicle and it's in park. Weirded me out to no end and I still see it frequently, but no problems so far.
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