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Pennzoil Ultra Euro Spec

Here is a good one for you oil people. I emailed Pennzoil customer care tech. support about specific virgin specs for the Pennzoil Ultra Euro L 5W30 in our Ecodiesels. I told them I purchased 8 quarts and need virgin specs including a TBN for my reference. Someone replied back with the following. The TBN for our Pennzoil Ultra Euro L 5W-30 Motor Oil is not available. Our motor oil is approved for all European diesel engine. Not approved for US diesel engine. Really, Pennzoil Tech support wouldn't know what their Virgin oil's TBN is. This should be their top of the line most expensive oil they sell, and yet they have never ran a TBN test? Not approved for US diesel engine? We have them in the Ram's and the Grand Cherokee's here in the US. Does anyone know the Virgin spec. of this specific grade of oil? Thanks.

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Re: Pennzoil Ultra Euro Spec

The us diesel engine in the wk2 are the same in the european modell and build in europe from vm




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Re: Pennzoil Ultra Euro Spec

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Not approved for US diesel engine? We have them in the Ram's and the Grand Cherokee's here in the US.
As per Sox, it is an Italian engine, not US.
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Re: Pennzoil Ultra Euro Spec

The difference is what is approved to work (from an engineering standpoint) to what is "approved to work" (business standpoint). Sometimes manufacturers are in cahoots with oil companies to "recommend" certain brands, no matter how inferior the product, and outright forbid others through their published requirements. Really aggravating actually, since it impacts warranties and associated fixes.
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Re: Pennzoil Ultra Euro Spec

Not many oil companies are going to tell you what their TBN is or for that matter other compounds that make their oil unique. Just like no gas company will tell you what they do to provide the octane and additive package.
They know full well what the TBN is but will never share that as an intellectual property.

I am about one month from sending my oil sample in to Blackstone to get it analyzed and see what the TBN shows as well as the other typical information they provide...
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Re: Pennzoil Ultra Euro Spec

will you please post your results fun2drive?
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Re: Pennzoil Ultra Euro Spec

it is around 7.5, like all LowSPAsh oils. This is the newest Mobil oil that meets MB 229.51 (low ash oil) spec:
Mobil1 ESP X1 0W-30. Won't be surprised if this is the same oil recommended by Chrysler under different name.
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Re: Pennzoil Ultra Euro Spec

My factory oil had a TBN of 4.5 when I changed it @ 4200 miles.
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Re: Pennzoil Ultra Euro Spec

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Re: Pennzoil Ultra Euro Spec

TBN is less important with ULSD.


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