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Re: Positive JGC Diesel Thread

Sorry for the thread drift.

I love my GC Ecodiesel as well as I feel it has the best package out there.

Where else can you get a full size 4x4 SUV that gets almost 30 mpg?
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With snow tires it's got good traction. Turning is accomplished w the old fashioned parking brake.


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You really hope to do all three of those things. Otherwise there was no reason for that statement in a thread titled, " Positive JGC Diesel Thread".


Sorry Bill, that's not my style. All I stated was that those attributes can also be found with a V6 or V8 gas equipped GC. Most of what was listed does not require a diesel to enjoy.
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The two gassers both have some of the attributes listed....but fall short of ALL on the list. The v8 tows well but lacks economy. The v6 has the economy but no grunt to tow comfortably.

Admittedly, the diesel has its limitations... but they aren't the subject of this thread. The OP values most those things the diesel does best....as do I.

A number of those attributes don't have anything to do with having a diesel engine.

Some people want the power of the V8 for performance and/or towing and don't give a crap about fuel economy. Some people don't tow at all or tow light and the V6 gas will handle that just fine and still return decent enough mileage. So for them, the V6 or V8 gas engine meets all of the attributes listed.

I don't own a diesel and don't need one... but I don't knock those that do. People are going to get the engine they want regardless of what anyone out here says or what problems are being reported. That's perfectly fine. Drive what makes you happy.

I was just a little curious as to why the need for a "positive" JGC diesel thread. I don't see any for the 3.6L or 5.7L owners.

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Old 07-27-2014, 07:10 PM
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A number of those attributes don't have anything to do with having a diesel engine.

Some people want the power of the V8 for performance and/or towing and don't give a crap about fuel economy. Some people don't tow at all or tow light and the V6 gas will handle that just fine and still return decent enough mileage. So for them, the V6 or V8 gas engine meets all of the attributes listed.

I don't own a diesel and don't need one... but I don't knock those that do. People are going to get the engine they want regardless of what anyone out here says or what problems are being reported. That's perfectly fine. Drive what makes you happy.

I was just a little curious as to why the need for a "positive" JGC diesel thread. I don't see any for the 3.6L or 5.7L owners.

Answer....because THE MOTOR makes a huge difference. It offers performance AND economy...a combination unobtainable with a gas engine. My wife has v8 GC and it feels sluggish and underpowered compared to my diesel. If you haven't owned a modern turbodiesel, then it is hard to understand the benefits.

The gas motor options are excellent nonetheless. This thread is about the exceptional combination of ALL the listed attributes. Many vehicles meet some of the criteria...few meet all. That's fine if the vehicle you choose meets your needs. Most diesel owners DO give a crap about economy and power which drives their decision.

Enjoy what you drive. Accolades can be showered on any of the models if the owners are enthusiastic enough about the value and performance. Some diesel owners are pretty elated.
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Re: Positive JGC Diesel Thread

Couldn't be stated better.

I should've added....I was tired of filling up twice a week with the Hemi. Now it's once every two weeks.

Plus, diesel is relatively inexpensive in NJ.

Plus, it's very smooth while towing.


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Re: Positive JGC Diesel Thread

Amen!!!!

Have had mine for 2 weeks now. What a great ride and improvement over my very good 2008 GC with the 4.7. After having owned it for 6 days, I have been on 2 road trips. One 500+ mile and one 1400+ mile trip. Averaged 27.9 mpg for first and 28.2 for second. Over 700 miles per tank. My 2008 barely gets 275. It's a pleasure to drive. Had 3 people and gear in it and it was cruising. No issues in smokey mountains, no issues at all. It will be towing the boat next weekend. Can't wait...

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Answer....because THE MOTOR makes a huge difference. It offers performance AND economy...a combination unobtainable with a gas engine. My wife has v8 GC and it feels sluggish and underpowered compared to my diesel. If you haven't owned a modern turbodiesel, then it is hard to understand the benefits.

The gas motor options are excellent nonetheless. This thread is about the exceptional combination of ALL the listed attributes. Many vehicles meet some of the criteria...few meet all. That's fine if the vehicle you choose meets your needs. Most diesel owners DO give a crap about economy and power which drives their decision.

Enjoy what you drive. Accolades can be showered on any of the models if the owners are enthusiastic enough about the value and performance. Some diesel owners are pretty elated.
You seem to be pretty knowledgeable on diesels. I have a question for you...

If the diesel is the know all, end all as far as towing/hauling goes, and the Ram has the Cummins and now the eco-diesel, why did Chrysler feel a need to now add the 6.4L V8 to that line-up?
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Re: Positive JGC Diesel Thread

Because someone will always want a cheaper option even if it's not optimal. If you can afford the diesel, it's the better option for hauling and fuel economy, if not, you go with gas.

Dodge just covered all of the bases.

Anyways, this thread isn't about that....it's about positive experiences with our diesels.


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I LOVE my diesel too. 3200 trouble free miles and counting. I do not tow, only drive 12,000 miles a year, but I like power. At the same time, I didn't want to give up fuel economy. Diesel was the best overall option for me. I replaced a Subaru Impreza wagon. Thing was GREAT on snowy roads, but so small and had zero amenities and zero power. MPGs? 23 was my overall average with it. EcoDiesel average? 25.5. Great mileage and sooo much better in every way.

If more Americans would TRY diesels instead of perpetuating myths about them we'd have multiple diesel engine options and one gas option - you know, like Europe.
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Because someone will always want a cheaper option even if it's not optimal. If you can afford the diesel, it's the better option for hauling and fuel economy, if not, you go with gas.

Dodge just covered all of the bases.

Anyways, this thread isn't about that....it's about positive experiences with our diesels.


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That's right... a diesel isn't for everyone, even for heavy haulers.

I'm merely pointing out that the attributes pointed out by the OP are not the exclusive domain of diesel owners. No need for anyone to get defensive about that.

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That's right... a diesel isn't for everyone, even for heavy haulers.

I'm merely pointing out that the attributes pointed out by the OP are not the exclusive domain of diesel owners. No need for anyone to get defensive about that.

The combination of economy and power are exclusive to the diesel and are two of the attributes mentioned. I'm not defensive about it...just factual. Informed readers can make their own choices.
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