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Corvettes really bring out the stereotypes, gold chains, mid life crisis, compensation, lol its a long list. It seemed to me that there was markedly less of it when I traded to a Z but there is a lot of baggage with vettes, you have to admit it. I always find it amusing that I can get in and out of different cars on the same day and be a different person to (some of) those I meet.
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About 4K so far and overal I am at around 27 and I do expect to see close to 30 in the summer months. If you drive diesel now there is no way that you could get a gas burner and be happy. I used to drive a diesel car and a gas SUV and the difference in driving gas is most unsatisfactory even if it has all the power they make. If you like hammering the pedal down well then you will not like this veheicle but if you like power that is sooth and constant well stop the worry. When it gets really cold just plug it in. I had an older diesel that started just fine in really cold weather if I had it parked during the day at work but had some issues after long stays. It started but it was scary. Never had a scary moment with this one even when it was -10 out.

I still love driving it and think it handles the road better than my Jetta. Buy gas and you are going to hate it when you get in the vehicle every time. And who has not had an issue with a gas vehicle when it is -15 out. Certainly Diesel is different but I can deal with the really cold days so that I can enjoy all the rest of the time using it.

I drive one and in hindsight I would do it again and think that you would be making a big mistake not to join the club. It really is a great vehicle. Oh oil changes might be a bit more but all modern gas vehicles are probably using full synthetic now so they are not going to be so cheap either. If they are not, well I think it is foolish not to use it anyway.
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I've had my GC since November 15, 2013 and drive around 6 miles each way to work with occasional highway trips that have been relatively short. With winter blend, my lowest average was 17.24 mpg. The GC always started, even down to -15 in Denver. It was louder at frigid temperatures. My dealer charged me $220 for four oil changes, did the first this morning with just over 3k miles. I very much enjoy this engine and transmission! We'll see what the future holds.
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Re: Potential new owner...

Bought my Summit Eco the Saturday before Christmas. Drove it to Florida (from MD) to visit family for Christmas. Left my driveway with 230 miles on the odometer. Round trip highway down and back was just barely under 30mpg. Now on March 1, it sits in the garage with right around 4k on the odometer.

We've been Arctic here in MD this winter. Zero issues from the WK2. I also have an '01 Cummins/stick - the Jeep complains far less than the Cummins in this weather, and the Cummins has a block heater that gets used regularly - the Jeep does not. It almost 'rattles' on early morning coldstart...but NOTHING like the filling-removing Cummins cacophony! I have had zero system failures, zero hiccups, zero component issues. I commute 17 miles each way to work. I work in the valley (300' above sea level) and live at 1501' elevation. Roads are twisty and steep - TONS of fun on motorcycles in the summer, but not so good for MPG. In single-digit weather with winter-blend fuel and no additives, I'm averaging 23 hand calculated. My Cummins, WITH additive, averages 16 on winter blend (normally 19-22 summertime; 6 speed with 3.55's) for the same commute.

I can't WAIT to see what the mileage goes to on summer fuel.

My advice to you? F**k the forums, forget everything you read everywhere, go drive one, and make your OWN decision. I suspect you'll like it - I know I do - but everyone has diffferent hot buttons. If you can, get one for an extended test drive. Take it home and reset the EVIC and the trip odometer. Drive it to work on your normal route, and see how it behaves. Check the EVIC, and see how it did compared to your other vehicles. And enjoy the heated seat and steering wheel!!
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Bottom line...there is an anti-diesel bias in the US. Some of it is deserved based on older diesels....but the VM3.0 diesel has NO faults worthy of these worn out criticisms. It starts and runs flawlessly in extreme cold, its not noisy, its powerful, economical, eco friendly, drives and tows like a v8. Once you own a diesel, its hard to go back. The rest of the world understands.

Now, that being said...if you drive short distances in the city with extreme winter conditions, the engine won't reach operating temperatures, the DPF filter will be in constant regen mode, and the economy will be more like the v6 gasser. If you drive more miles, frequently on the highway, and longer than 15 minute commutes, especially in milder climates, the economy is excellent.

I have 9800 problem free miles on mine and love it. I added a tuner and 0-60 is down from 7.8s to 6.7s now. Its pure joy every time I drive it.
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Re: Potential new owner...

I'm new to the forums.. First post actually, so I haven't even posted my review yet. But I couldn't resist helping out on this one. I finally pulled the trigger and started working on getting my SFU right after Christmas and before New Years. I was able to find the exact one I wanted on the rail cars heading to the dealer. A little deposit and some paperwork and it was reserved for me... When we went to pick it up, the dealer called me on the way to the airport and alerted me that during their incoming inspection and prep, they noticed the DPF was throwing a sensor code. All in all... No big deal, except the sensors were backordered back in January. So no Jeep for two weeks. Finally picked it up the third week of Jan, and couldn't be happier. I guess my point is that these babies have a lot of technology and as an engineer that has supported automotive clients over the years, you'd like to think that nothing can go wrong... but it does... And frankly the dealerships can make you live to regret or be thrilled at the outcome. Mine made it a thrilling outcome. If I had arrived and drove off the lot and had the sensor failure... I could see a different opinion. But dealerships have these processes and procedures now for a reason and the good dealerships solve many problems before you and I ever see them. In my case it worked out well. In some of the other documented cases on this forum, it has not. I think it works out more often than not based on the sampling I've seen here.

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1. Cold weather performance has been fine. But the coldest I've been so far is 20 deg. F. I live in the greater Seattle area.

2. Economy: 12 miles one way to work. Stop and go for 7 of the 12 miles. Only hit 60 MPH for 5 miles. Fuel economy with winter blend so far is 19 MPG for commute. Toss in some runs to the airport and a few customer meetings where I can get it on the highway, and it jumps quickly to 24-25. Run up to the outlet malls (30 minutes of highway speed) and we break 25 MPG. All in all I run at 24.9 with winter blend on the weekends and during the week it starts dropping as I just commute to work and home. Then on the weekends as I run it a bit longer and harder it goes back to 24-25MPG.

3. Mountains... 23MPG avg while climbing from 400ft to 4000ft. I was surprised! The engine found a grove and just went right up the mountain. that day it was a heavy snowfall... going up in 3 inches of snow at 35-40 miles per hour and I was avg'ing 23 MPG. Quite impressive with only 700 Miles on it at the time.

4. Mountains... It drives like a mountain goat. I've driven dozens of 4x4 vehicles: wranglers, ford truce (expeditions, F150s, & SDs), duramaxs, etc.. And this Overland is the most planted of any of them in snow and ice. With the less than optimal factory tires.. Had a car spin in front of me going down the mountain in heavy snow. I tapped the brakes to test for traction, no skid, and I drove throught he thick snow between east and west bound lanes and around the car as it bounced off the guard rails. I was able to slow down (downhill) of the car, stop on mountain, and check to see that they were alright. I think at the moment the other car spun around and they were going backwards down the mountain looking at me, I realized I was glad I was in the jeep.


5. Comfort... There are times where I feel like I'm driving a Boeing 777. More buttons, lights, knobs, than any vehicle I've ever owned. But the whole thing works together so well. All the comfort features seem to be linked and working towards the same mission. You won't be disappointed.



The interesting:

1. Diesel fill up. I've been careful. But something is off and I can't quite figure it out. Seems like if I let the pump kick out (full tank), and I drive in the first few minutes and I brake hard or change direction rapidly that it must splash some fuel out (may from a vent or overflow protection). I am careful to wipe the fill area clean with a paper towel. So I know I have not spilled any. But sometimes when I park after a fill up I can smell diesel outside the vehicle. With the rains in seattle it finally pointed out that something must of come out a vent. I filled Jeep, then moved it to a mcdonalds in the same general area. No diesel on the ground where I pulled in. After I went in and ate, came back out to a diesel slick running out from under my jeep. Again, this only happens at fill ups. Rest of the time it is just fine, with no strange smells or problems.

2. there was a breakin odor that did go away.. Some guys on the forum had this as well.

3. Heater block cord is not always tied down well at delivery. Took a bit of work to fetch it from down by the block and get it up to the surface. But otherwise it is fine.

4. Nav unit is sometimes stupid at taking an address. If it doesn't think the street number is valid it won't accept it. But if you go into the yelp application and find the place you are going, it always accepts the navigate to button. Even after it just refused to let me type in the same address. Most probably a firmware fix that will happen at some point.

5. Maintenance. Stuck doing yourself or watching your dealer closely. No one else knows how to work on these yet. I imagine that will change. But for now you have to treat it about the same way you would a high performance euro diesel, where I wouldn't let a normal oil change or mechanic mess with them either.

The bad:
1. None yet.

All in all one of the best purchases I've made.

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Hi JGC Diesel owners. Did anyone else have difficulty deciding between Limited (4X4, LG2, NAV, ORA2, EcoDiesel) & Overland (4X4, ATG, ORA2, EcoDiesel)? The differences include (1) the interior look is nicer on the Overland, (2) the Overland includes the ATG which is a good package to have, and (3) the Overland cost +$5400 more than the limited. If anyone else reached this dilemma, what helped you decide one way or the other? I'm sure I'll love either one. I will go test drive again, so that will help, but curious to see what others think. Thanks.
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Hi JGC Diesel owners. Did anyone else have difficulty deciding between Limited (4X4, LG2, NAV, ORA2, EcoDiesel) & Overland (4X4, ATG, ORA2, EcoDiesel)? The differences include (1) the interior look is nicer on the Overland, (2) the Overland includes the ATG which is a good package to have, and (3) the Overland cost +$5400 more than the limited. If anyone else reached this dilemma, what helped you decide one way or the other? I'm sure I'll love either one. I will go test drive again, so that will help, but curious to see what others think. Thanks.
I chose the Limited because the interior with Lux2 is, IMO, just as nice and I wanted black carpet. I didn't want the Adv Tech so the Limited had everything I wanted and for less. The ORA2 and tow hooks are nice too. Also, in a dark vehicle, the black plastic fender trim is not noticeable and more durable.
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Hi JGC Diesel owners. Did anyone else have difficulty deciding between Limited (4X4, LG2, NAV, ORA2, EcoDiesel) & Overland (4X4, ATG, ORA2, EcoDiesel)? The differences include (1) the interior look is nicer on the Overland, (2) the Overland includes the ATG which is a good package to have, and (3) the Overland cost +$5400 more than the limited. If anyone else reached this dilemma, what helped you decide one way or the other? I'm sure I'll love either one. I will go test drive again, so that will help, but curious to see what others think. Thanks.
I chose the Limited. I wanted the Indigo blue with Jeep brown interior on the Overland but also wanted to keep it under $50K. Plus, if I keep it over 5 years, I figured the vinyl dash is more practical. Also, I like the the way the black wheel well trim looks with Billet silver. And the taxes and insurance and license plates are less on the Limited. Colorado charges for plates based on the vehicle price and it's not cheap.
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I went with the Overland. Looks a little nicer, like extra painted parts, adds some nice low level lighting, and comes standard with tow pack, and a few other features. If you load a limited up, you can get pretty close to most of the features (a few things that I liked), and save a thousand or two. I was set on a loaded limited until the Texas group buy where I was able to upgrade to the Overland, fly to Texas, take a vacation, and drive home and still saved thousands over what they wanted in Minnesota for limited. Either way, it is all up to which one you like best and can afford. Good Luck on the purchase. If you need info for the Texas group buy, let me know.
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I was going to go Limited because of the dark carpet. Once I got to my guy at the dealer, though, and saw the Summit I ended up buying, and we ran numbers (a SUPER-minor monthly increase to get the Summit)...I got the Summit and haven't looked back.

I wasn't concerned - pre-purchase - about the advanced tech group but now that I have it...I wouldn't dream of going without it. It has so much COOL STUFF, I'll never go back ACC, blind spot monitoring, FCW - all great features. ACC is especially worth the cost of admission. And, the HID headlights seem to be "breaking in" and putting out more light than they did when I first got the truck so I'm not as unimpressed as I was at first (but the foglights are still worthless IMO; I'll be swapping them to 3000k bulbs soon unless I find an aftermarket reflector-optic setup to get rid of the projectors). And as I knew going in...QL is just bad-ass, and QD will take it anywhere I need to go despite not having big knobby mudders.
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After reading the reviews on ACC, I really realized I should have gotten it. I had myself convinced that my vehicle shouldn't slam on the brakes by itself...lol. Still do...but the adaptive cruise sounds really nice. Oh well.
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