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Old 03-02-2014, 02:07 PM
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Re: Potential new owner...

We looked at them all and ended up with a loaded Overland Diesel. Once we drove the diesel, we were hooked. As we live in Texas, we also wanted a White vehicle with a light interior, so we went with the Brown/Nepal interior. We really liked the Overland trim....

Just get what "tickles your fancy"......you'll be way happier !

Can't wait to get ours as it is still stuck on a railcar in Detroit . The darn railcar had a mechanical issue on 2/24 and was repaired on 2/28 and, from checking with CSX Friday, believe we may have missed the train that it was scheduled to be on yesterday.
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Old 03-02-2014, 02:11 PM
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Re: Potential new owner...

Bummer, Phil!
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Old 03-02-2014, 02:23 PM
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Re: Potential new owner...

I was ready to go on a loaded Limited - in fact, had already put a deposit down and ordered it. Had a VON# and everything - Milous was tracking it.

Then I decided to give the Texas Group Buy a run, just out of curiosity.

Turns out, they were almost $2500 below what I was already prepared to pay for my loaded Limited for an equivalent vehicle. Just for drill, I asked Mark to price an Overland, similarly loaded (MUCH simpler to do - only 2 options!). Turns out, it was only about $500 more than I was prepared to pay for the order I had in process.

Called my first dealer, and gave them a chance. They came down to within $1500 of Mark's offer. And they were also at 2 - 3 % below invoice.

I was already prepared for the original amount of the Limited order (Loan pre-approved for that amount, etc.), so even though I could have saved > $2500 by just staying with the loaded Limited, $500 delta for an Overland was mouse-nuts for me for the difference in trim, plus a few extra "toys" (power folding outside mirrors.. ).

Called my first dealer back, cancelled (they refunded my deposit immediately) and placed the order with Mark. No-brainer!

Now I'm waiting, and watching similar deliveries unfold (PhilbyTX, etc.) and have my trip to Houston planned and the drive back.
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Re: Potential new owner...

Oh - and about the ATG (really the ACC component):

My wife let me drive *her* Taurus SHO from Colorado Springs back to Boulder a couple of months ago. It has Ford's ACC. It was WONDERFUL! (even though she can't quite figure out how to use it). Helped me get 28 mpg in her SHO on the drive back. (BTW, premium fuel, more expensive than Diesel....)

So I already had a preview of what ACC was about, and knew it was a necessity if I was spending big $$ on a new car.....
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Old 03-02-2014, 04:20 PM
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Re: Potential new owner...

When we were looking for a GC in July 2013, there was no DIESEL at all to get. I am original from Germany and in Europe all SUV's have diesel engines. So I was a bit sad but I liked to catch the "special pricing" in Canada. Than I checked out how the diesel would work and I saw DPF/DEF written in letters online! That is a warning for me here in Edmonton Alberta with today's temps at -17F. Had last winter couple breakedowns with my semi-truck from Freightliner using DEF systems. Always trouble. NO THANK you, sir! I have enough in my job trouble with that DEF shxx! It will work in Texas and Mexico. I am sure. And with the liter on diesel at the gas station for $1,30 CAD in the moment no fun at all.

For most of the people in Canada is a gasoline engine the best way to run - special in the winter month.
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Re: Potential new owner...

ExcursionDiesel - this isn't meant to add insult to injury, but...ACC doesn't "slam" on the brakes, it simply paces the car in front of you the way you would with your own foot. And there's a menu where you can toggle the FCW from screaming at you and slamming on the brakes for you...to simply screaming at you.

I turned off the FCW active braking (the evergreens at my driveway entrance triggered it every single time I came home, and it would also trigger for vehicles in a different lane which posed no collision threat), but have fallen in love with ACC.

And, of course, there's still a plain ol' normal cruise control system - you don't have to hit the ACC button to use regular cruise.
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ExcursionDiesel - this isn't meant to add insult to injury, but...ACC doesn't "slam" on the brakes, it simply paces the car in front of you the way you would with your own foot. And there's a menu where you can toggle the FCW from screaming at you and slamming on the brakes for you...to simply screaming at you.

I turned off the FCW active braking (the evergreens at my driveway entrance triggered it every single time I came home, and it would also trigger for vehicles in a different lane which posed no collision threat), but have fallen in love with ACC.

And, of course, there's still a plain ol' normal cruise control system - you don't have to hit the ACC button to use regular cruise.
FCW was what I was thinking of in regards to slamming on the brakes. In retrospect, I would have ordered it for the ACC although I rarely have much traffic. Thanks for the clarification.
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Re: Potential new owner...

Thanks to all who posted their helpful comments regarding the trim decision! So nice to meet others passionate about the Jeep and Ecodiesel (I wonder if other SUV brands have this sort of following). I hope those still waiting get their Jeep soon. My first test drives were focused on the engine and the 3.0L Diesel has won me over. Now I'm deciding on things like color, trim, esthetics and ATG.
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Re: Potential new owner...

We went with the Limited, ORAII and no ATG. The large black box the ATG puts behind the rear view mirror on the windshield made my wife motion sick during our test drives, so we couldn't get the package or go to the Overland. I am super happy with out decision, I don't feel as though I am missing anything.

Overall, I love the Jeep, very comfortable, quiet, very capable. You won't go wrong with which ever packages you end up going with.
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I did not think I would use the ATG much, but some of the features are now my favorite. I love the adaptive cruise, and the blind spot monitoring and rear cross path detection are really handy too. I keep the beeps off for the blind spot monitoring off, or it would drive me crazy. I have to look in the mirror when changing lanes, so the light is enough for me. The FCW has saved my butt a time or two. It doesn't activate unless you are way too close, and coming up too fast. Would not even consider buying one without it. Plus, with the Texas group buy, I saved so much, I was able to add all kinds of fun stuff, since I had the extra money.
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Re: Potential new owner...

The ACC does use your brakes to pace the other car very unlike I do it by letting off the pedal and letting the engine brake my speed. I followed my son home and that brake light going on all the time was annoying to me following him and uses the brake more than I would personally like.

My son still uses it and likes it but hates the crash avoidance because it scares him the way it goes off in instances where there is no real risk of a crash like when passing a car that is making a turn.

I have a limited and the only thing about the advanced technology group that I wish I had was the warning that a vehicle is in your blind spot. I like the way it lights up when someone is there.
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one other question for you cold weather owners...
when it is say 0-20 deg F outside and you remote start your CRD, does it actually "warm up"? do you have heat in say 10 min and does the temp gauge actually rise any?
When I start my Cummins Ram up, it could idle for a 1/2 hr in the cold winter and barely raise the temps at all due to that cold monster block in there! You have to drive it a good 20 min to get any heat coming at all....
Just trying to gauge if this thing acts more like a normal gas engine in that respect or if it acts more like the 5.9 Cummins....
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