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Old 08-07-2016, 08:29 AM
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Rented an X5 on Vacation...

While on a vacation in CO I got upgraded to an X5 on my rental car for a week. While I will say it was a very solid vehicle, Its HVAC controls were confusing and we never did get them adjusted to satisfaction... Auto isn't truly Auto on them ! The shifter on that vehicle is just as confusing as ours if not more so. Nice display on the Ent/Nav system but not as easy to figure out as JGC. Didn't like having to open 2 doors on tailgate to load luggage. No remote starter to start in 90+ degree heat. Did get good mileage, but used premium fuel. And I'm sure it listed for much more than the Eco D.

Overall missed my Jeep and was glad to get home to it, quirks and all. Does any rental car places rent JGC EcoD ?

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Old 08-07-2016, 09:30 AM
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Re: Rented an X5 on Vacation...

I am a life long BMW guy since 1970 so you can guess my age and I would never buy any X series BMW when other choices out there are more suitable.
What it does is handle very well and have great brakes. Our Jeep does very well in handling approaching the BMW but not quite. I know of no rental company that rentals the diesel since rental companies always choose the most common platform. I rented years ago a Jeep Cherokee and used it in the mnts in Wyoming, Utah, Colorado, and South Dakota. That was 1991 and it was a great vehicle and got 25 mpg which amazed me....
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Re: Rented an X5 on Vacation...

I know it's not the same, but I'm now in Italy and bought a second vehicle which is an 02 X5 with the 3.0 diesel. I haven't done too much driving yet but it seems to be working well for the time being. I will say the hatch/lift gate is kind of weird but it's not a forever car.
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Re: Rented an X5 on Vacation...

In my opinion the X5 has much better handling on pavement and excellent ergonomics inside, of course that's only once the driver knows how to use all of the switches. I used to have an '06 GC SRT and I'd say the suspension of the X5 is simply better - it's every bit as sporty/responsive as the SRT, but yet not as abusive. As the driver, the SRT never bothered me, but I've had multiple occupants complain about the rough ride. Oh, and there was the issue of the SRT suspension bottoming out on sharp potholes which resulted in bent rims... The two X5s that I'm familiar with haven't had that issue despite very similar wheels and tires.

But the X5 has got zero off road chops.

I have a couple of friends that have a X5 and they've been surprising reliable. Living in Montana the new GC is the right choice for my needs. (I've got a '15 Overland now)
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Re: Rented an X5 on Vacation...

Rental cars also tend to be the lower trim levels with smaller engines although there are some exceptions. Some large airport locations for rental companies have their own filling stations and they probably don't even have diesel.
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I had an '04 X5 4.8iS which was a great driving SUV. Fit and finish were typical German perfect, whisper silent on the highway, spectacular handling and braking. BUT, once out of warranty it cost a bloody fortune to keep it running. Front control arms every 30,000 miles, power steering rack at 60,000, transmission at 80,000. I've owned BMW's since the early 70's so like fin2drive you can figure my age too. After a string of BMW vehicles, that was the last one. Now we have an Audi A6 in the garage for the family sedan.
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The new X5 xDrive35i M Sport with Adaptive M Suspension is my favorite vehicle out there. I at one point had one on order and ended up cancelling it because I'm not ready to part with my GC yet. And my closest bimmer dealer is 3 hours away...
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Re: Rented an X5 on Vacation...

You can see from my sig that I'm a big BMW guy. You can also see I bought a GC instead of an X5.
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Re: Rented an X5 on Vacation...

why manufacturers think that HVAC controls need touchscreen operation now is beyond me. Seriously...having to navigate to a different screen to turn on seat heater? Why can't we get whats in the JK with a few extra rocker buttons for vented seats, etc. ?
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why manufacturers think that HVAC controls need touchscreen operation now is beyond me.
It's there so hackers can control it from the internet to troll you while their injected code to jump from the "I can't believe they peered this on the canbus" nav unit over to control your transmission and accelerator is loading.

Ha.

The side bonus from their horribly shoddy engineering & security practices is that much of this climate control stuff is trivially scriptable should one choose to root & mod their firmware. That is, if one avoids bricking one's nav unit in the process.
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According to the guys on the Volvo forums, the X5s sales have been down about 50% the past two months...
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why manufacturers think that HVAC controls need touchscreen operation now is beyond me. Seriously...having to navigate to a different screen to turn on seat heater? Why can't we get whats in the JK with a few extra rocker buttons for vented seats, etc. ?
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