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You don't. You just don't get it lol. I don't know if anyone else has tried it, but this recall is a voluntary recall as of right now. As in if you don't want it you don't have to get it. I explicitly said that I am not exhibiting any of the symptoms, I do not want it. I did not get it.
And how is the dealer going to Devine from the ether that a once working jeep no longer worksafter a PCM update? Are they magically going to Devine you have "insufficient DEF"?

And what I really intended was that once the recall was squared away, then you could get the tune and the distilled water.

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And how is the dealer going to explain a once working jeep not working after a PCM update? Are they magically going to Devine you have "insufficient DEF"?
So in your scenario, the dealer just happily assumes that the Jeep throwing "bad DEF" error codes is lying and there's nothing awry when the Jeep refuses to start? Because we've already had members on this forum get warranty denials after the dealer sampled their DEF and found out it was out of spec... and they were running legit DEF.

This would be less of an issue if it weren't such a major PITA to drain the DEF tank. Furthermore, you would have to somehow know whether the current status of the DEF was sufficient for the onboard EPA sensors.
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So in your scenario, the dealer just happily assumes that the Jeep throwing "bad DEF" error codes is lying and there's nothing awry when the Jeep refuses to start? Because we've already had members on this forum get warranty denials after the dealer sampled their DEF and found out it was out of spec... and they were running legit DEF.
So why can't the person asking do all this after they get the recall done?
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So why can't the person asking do all this after they get the recall done?
See above. Also, the point is that your advice about running distilled water was ill-advised without proper disclaimers regarding dealer flash scenarios.

It's not as if this solitary recall represents the only PCM flash that's ever happened. There are new PCM firmware releases about 2x/year, and dealers will overwrite your GDE tune with a single click, leaving you with a rather difficult to explain dead Jeep.

I'm guessing your retort will be "never go to the dealer for any service."
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See above. Also, the point is that your advice about running distilled water was ill-advised without proper disclaimers regarding dealer flash scenarios.

It's not as if this solitary recall represents the only PCM flash that's ever happened. There are new PCM firmware releases about 2x/year, and dealers will overwrite your GDE tune with a single click, leaving you with a rather difficult to explain dead Jeep.

I'm guessing your retort will be "never go to the dealer for any service."
Why do you pick a fight with everyone who has a different opinion than you? I think the idea of someone overseas away from North American Chrysler dealerships using an aftermarket tune is a viable option for that individual to consider. Id be curious to hear how often he's gonna be driving to one overseas, especially as a service member who has been stationed in Italy and hasn't seen one for hundreds of miles. How many Chrysler dealerships are lining the streets of Italy?

There are plenty of people that use a tune and don't get reflashed at a dealer. I've gone to the dealership plenty of times to get work done and said just don't flash it. If you look in the GDE threads there are plenty of people who avoid your conundrum. If he/ she was seriously interested in investing the money and doing the research, they'd avoid this issue.

I'm sure it's not the same for everyone, but saying that your experience is the only valid one is total bullshit. I can't think of one person on this forum who has come back with a scenario like you presented. Stranded in the dealership parking lot with tears in their eyes, shaking their fists in the sky "had I only listened to Roadkill!!!!!! Damn that Floridaman!!!!!!"

And now we're gonna go back and forth like you do with every person who challenges your 1200 Jeep Garage-post worthy knowledge because no one else can have an opinion besides you.

I've seen your posts. You are the kind of person that makes other people want to sit in silence while you whittle away at others.
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Re: Rotella T-6 in our diesel?

FYI -

You can locate AdBlue stations here....it is exactly the same as US DEF.

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Also, you should not have any issue getting oil for your ED motor as it is made in Italy . I'm sure someone on here is in Europe and could help with approved oils.







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Thanks that worked. I ordered 2 gallons for my next oil change and I hope it works. I just arrived to Italy for a military move and finding the right oils and such are a little more difficult over here. I had to use Adblue to fill my DEF tank about 1 week after arrival. Stopped by my on base auto shop looking for DEF and they looked at me like I was stupid. Said they never heard of it. Had to take a stroll downtown and luckily I found the Adblue and it turned off the "engine will not start after XX miles" message and has not given me a error message on wrong type of DEF.
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Why do you pick a fight with everyone who has a different opinion than you?
Look: I don't care whether you (or anyone else) run distilled water instead of DEF. I care whether you give advice to unsuspecting people that could lead to them having a dead Jeep/invalidated warranty.

Had you acknowledged this risk for others in your posts there would be no need to go "back and forth".
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Re: Rotella T-6 in our diesel?

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FYI -

You can locate AdBlue stations here....it is exactly the same as US DEF.

FindAdBlue.com - Home Page

Also, you should not have any issue getting oil for your ED motor as it is made in Italy . I'm sure someone on here is in Europe and could help with approved oils.
Ok. Thanks for the link. Yea I know the engine is from here in Italy, however there is a crazy tax on oil here in Italy, worse then what the US has so It's cheaper for me to order online via amazon or autozone then to buy at a local auto parts store.
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Re: Rotella T-6 in our diesel?

Just a FYI on this Rotella spec change. Had my oil changed at the dealer yesterday. Stayed with the Pennzoil for now. As I stated before they ran my VIN # and said that there is no change to the spec yet for my JGC.


It's only for the 2016 model. I pointed out the change in the 2015 diesel supplement and gave them a copy of that page.


They said there must be an issue showing a change in the supplement, because there should always be a TSB first, especially in a change like this.


Bear in mind there is more than just a change in the spec on the 2016. There is a re flash of the PCM, TCM, and a new sticker showing the new oil spec on the fill cap.


So I don't have any hassles with warranty issues later, I stayed with the Pennzoil till there is a definitive confirmation of the change for the 14-16 models.


He said he would check with a district rep on why the 14-15 is not included and the reason for the supplement change and no TSB.
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Re: Rotella T-6 in our diesel?

I've been told that Rotella T6 is available on Amazon for $16.29 and then Shell has a $5/gal rebate. Use "subscribe and save" to get free shipping.
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Re: Rotella T-6 in our diesel?

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Why do you pick a fight with everyone who has a different opinion than you? I think the idea of someone overseas away from North American Chrysler dealerships using an aftermarket tune is a viable option for that individual to consider. Id be curious to hear how often he's gonna be driving to one overseas, especially as a service member who has been stationed in Italy and hasn't seen one for hundreds of miles. How many Chrysler dealerships are lining the streets of Italy?

There are plenty of people that use a tune and don't get reflashed at a dealer. I've gone to the dealership plenty of times to get work done and said just don't flash it. If you look in the GDE threads there are plenty of people who avoid your conundrum. If he/ she was seriously interested in investing the money and doing the research, they'd avoid this issue.

I'm sure it's not the same for everyone, but saying that your experience is the only valid one is total bullshit. I can't think of one person on this forum who has come back with a scenario like you presented. Stranded in the dealership parking lot with tears in their eyes, shaking their fists in the sky "had I only listened to Roadkill!!!!!! Damn that Floridaman!!!!!!"

And now we're gonna go back and forth like you do with every person who challenges your 1200 Jeep Garage-post worthy knowledge because no one else can have an opinion besides you.

I've seen your posts. You are the kind of person that makes other people want to sit in silence while you whittle away at others.

Dude, you fell into the Roadkill trap. This troll just can't stop beating a dead horse.



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Dude, you fell into the Roadkill trap. This troll just can't stop beating a dead horse.

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Lmao. Right on. Glad that someone else sees it for what it is. I know there are signs everywhere that say not to feed the trolls, but I fell for it :'(
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