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Old 05-19-2016, 11:29 AM
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Re: Shifter Recall

I think the 14 shifter is a superior design. It takes up less real estate on the console. Mine is being replaced with a 16. I have test driven the 16 and will miss the 14 shift lever.

If you want to see something really different, I once rented a 1500 Ram pickup. Its shifter was a dial, similar to our lights dial on our JGCs but to the right of the steering wheel. No shift lever on a center console, no lever on the steering column. Talk about different. It was a paradigm shift for my brain (no pun intended) but I liked it - same reason, it takes up much less space.

I will miss the 14 shift lever when I get my 16 replacement. But, oh well.

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Took me some getting use to the shifter (old guy here - slow learner ) - but I have no real complaints. Still the odd time it doesn't make it where I want it to go but I don't feel that it is necessary for me to change it.

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Took me some getting use to the shifter (old guy here - slow learner ) - but I have no real complaints. Still the odd time it doesn't make it where I want it to go but I don't feel that it is necessary for me to change it.
I now have a brand new 2016 with the new shifter, after 2 years and 40,000 miles with the old shifter. I have 400 miles on my new rig and I prefer the old shifter. It takes up less room on the center console. Yes the old shifter was a little quirky, and the new shifter is more intuitive, but I prefer the old shifter.

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I think the 14 shifter is a superior design. It takes up less real estate on the console.
What I noticed about the placement of the 14 shifter was that they had it too close to the side of the console. For me it was easy to brush my thigh against it and I didn't like that. That problem doesn't exist with the 16 shifter. How much more space the 16 shifter takes up is a non-issue for me.
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Re: Shifter Recall

I have to say I almost died laughing when they provided the instructions as a work around.

It sounds stupid to think people would not look but I just came from 2 cars that automatically put the car in park if you turned off the ignition (BMW x3 and a Lexus). There is a possibility there were assumptions based on the way the the shifter appears to work. But I have never left my vehicle without checking it was in park.

I am not a fan of the shift mechanism but I'm sure at some point it will be less annoying
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Re: Shifter Recall

As a 17 year old who's been using the '15 shifter for a year, its not that hard to figure out but it definitely has its issues where I've had to go one click at a time to go from D to P (press, shift to N. press, shift to R. press, shift to P). Wouldn't mind the new shifter replacing the old but it seems unnecessary at the same time. I don't see a problem with it at all, just people not understanding properly how it works.
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Re: Shifter Recall

It sounds like they will not replace the shifter, but change the programming and have a chime ring if you open the door while in gear. Not sure I would want this fix.

FCA to recall 1.1 million vehicles for confusing shifter | Autoweek
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Re: Shifter Recall

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It sounds like they will not replace the shifter, but change the programming and have a chime ring if you open the door while in gear. Not sure I would want this fix.

FCA to recall 1.1 million vehicles for confusing shifter | Autoweek
It's definitely a software only fix...

Good news, looks like they have figured out a way to pop out the software fix faster. A week ago FCA sent this letter to dealers:

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs...6V240-6687.pdf

"The timing to develop the software updates required to remedy this situation has been accelerated. FCA now anticipates having the software updates required to remedy the above vehicles no later than July/August of 2016."



other info on this recall here...

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Re: Shifter Recall

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It sounds like they will not replace the shifter, but change the programming and have a chime ring if you open the door while in gear. Not sure I would want this fix.

FCA to recall 1.1 million vehicles for confusing shifter | Autoweek
I think the more scary though than the chime is this portion of what they said:

"in addition to a software patch that will prevent the vehicle from moving under certain conditions even when Park is not selected."

My BMW would not move in many conditions regardless of if the car was in park....open door was one.
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I think the more scary though than the chime is this portion of what they said:

"in addition to a software patch that will prevent the vehicle from moving under certain conditions even when Park is not selected."

My BMW would not move in many conditions regardless of if the car was in park....open door was one.
So if you had your car in D but the door was open, the car wouldnt move? What if you got out of your car and closed the door? Would the car automatically start rolling forward since youre in D and the door is now closed?
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It sounds like they will not replace the shifter, but change the programming and have a chime ring if you open the door while in gear. Not sure I would want this fix.

FCA to recall 1.1 million vehicles for confusing shifter | Autoweek
This might be better than sending you a recall notice that tells you that there is a problem and that a fix isn't ready, but meanwhile, please look at the little card that tells you how to make sure your shifter is in park--and always set the parking break.

... and here I thought the key chain was a waste of postage.
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So if you had your car in D but the door was open, the car wouldnt move? What if you got out of your car and closed the door? Would the car automatically start rolling forward since youre in D and the door is now closed?
Correct. So if I put the car in drive and opened my door in some need to see the side of the car or curb the car would not move. We wanted it too once...and that was how I found out. It will actually slam the car into park if you open the door. You cannot put it in Drive or reverse unless you close the door, press the brake, and shift to the gear. It also automatically put the car in park when you pressed the button and turned off the engine.

I have to say I never really tried the whole getting out of the car and leaving it in drive thing...that would have been not so good . More over as you see above leaving it in drive would be really difficult. I suspect if the door is closed and it is in drive some how that it would in fact move. In fact, the car will remain running without the key in it and can be driven away. It just won't restart without the key.

(FYI my Harley has a proximity key that works the same...if its started you can ride it with or without the key)
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