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Old 05-12-2014, 05:46 AM
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Re: Towing 3,000 lb trailer without trailer brakes?

I think I take this with any other rating on the Jeep and I don't think that we are allowed to simply make them all subjective. I believe that the overall towing weight rating is probably a little low as well considering that the VW Touareg is rated to tow more than 500lbs more than the JGC (except with a lower tongue rating). All that does for me though is make me feel comfortable towing up to the Maximum weight not exceeding it.

I have no idea how they develop the total load numbers or braking (tongue weight is calculated from GVWR on the vehicle from the off load). However just because I don't agree with it doesn't mean that that I just ignore the numbers because there is a reason they are the way they are.

I have towed my trailer in a closed lot (loaded at the scales 7180lbs) and it handled fine there too but I also have watched people in intersections on a down slope need to emergency brake and the trailer has pushed them through the intersection and hit other people. As with always it wouldn't even matter that somebody else wasn't doing what they are supposed to, the guy with the trailer out off spec will take the blame guaranteed.

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Re: Towing 3,000 lb trailer without trailer brakes?

Any load you tow will decrease stopping distance. Any weight you carry IN the vehicle will decrease stopping distance. Road surface conditions will too. Any emergency stop will be longer than when unloaded. The laws of physics apply....so does common sense. You must drive according to the physical limits of the vehicle/trailer combo. Period. This applies whether you have trailer brakes or not.

In this litigious world we live in, Lawyers dictate safety regulations not engineers. Sad but true.
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Re: Towing 3,000 lb trailer without trailer brakes?

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Any load you tow will decrease stopping distance. Any weight you carry IN the vehicle will decrease stopping distance. Road surface conditions will too. Any emergency stop will be longer than when unloaded. The laws of physics apply....so does common sense. You must drive according to the physical limits of the vehicle/trailer combo. Period. This applies whether you have trailer brakes or not.

In this litigious world we live in, Lawyers dictate safety regulations not engineers. Sad but true.
I think you mean "increase" stopping distance. But you are right - keep in mind what you are towing and give longer stopping distances, don't tail gate and keep the speeds down especially where you may have to panic stop (such as unpredictable stop lights).
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I think you mean "increase" stopping distance. But you are right - keep in mind what you are towing and give longer stopping distances, don't tail gate and keep the speeds down especially where you may have to panic stop (such as unpredictable stop lights).
Thanks... Yes, load *increases" stopping distances. Drive accordingly. A rating in a manual doesn't change that!
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