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Towing Capacity - Payload and GVWR

I've searched long and hard on this forum and other forums/websites with no answer in sight to my question.

I have a 2016 GC Limited 4WD w/ Diesel. When looking at the specs the GVWR is 6,800 lbs ( 3,300 front axle and 3,600 rear I think....saw it per axle on one website and can't seem to find it again). Regardless, the listed curb weight that includes all fuel, lubricants, and fluids is 5,275 and the listed "payload" is 1,270 lbs. subtracting curb weight of 5275 from 6800 GVWR gives a much higher weight of 1,525lbs.

Why the difference between listed payload and what I would be watching out for when I buy a travel trailer and take it across the CAT scale and compare to GVWR and front/rear axle ratings?

Trying to narrow down on the right sized travel trailer for my family, staying within the limits of the vehicle.

Thanks in advance,
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Re: Towing Capacity - Payload and GVWR

I can't exactly figure out that number but when it comes to towing and payload they assume a 150lb driver also. So you may need to include that in your number. I can't remember where I saw that fact or if it's true any more. Also to be on the safe side towing just go to 90% of your max towing lbs after you figure in your potential payload.
Remember hitch weight counts against your vehicle payload rating. I don't understand why they don't give the GCWR wich is the gross combined. Meaning the trailer, payload and vehicle can't weigh over a certain amount. Sorry I could not answer your exact question.
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Re: Towing Capacity - Payload and GVWR

Your Max Payload is 1,270 and your Max towing on a Ltd 4x4 is 7,400 lbs, with a Class III hitch, period. Be glad you aren't buying an Overland or Summit, as your Maximum payload would be less.


Jeep Capabilities - Towing Capacity Chart
  • 3.0L EcoDiesel V6 engine
    240 hp
    420 lb-ft of torque
    Eight-speed automatic transmission
    • Limited
    • Class III Heavy Duty
    • Trailer Tow Group
    • (Available)
    Max towing: 7,400 pounds, 2WD / 7,200 pounds, 4WD Max payload: 1,160 pounds, 2WD Max payload: 1,270 pounds, 4WD
    • Overland
    • Class III Heavy Duty
    • Trailer Tow Group
    • (Available)
    Max towing: 7,400 pounds, 2WD / 7,200 pounds, 4WD Max payload: 1,090 pounds, 2WD Max payload: 1,170 pounds, 4WD
    • Summit
    • Class III Heavy Duty
    • Trailer Tow Group
    • (Available)
    Max towing: 7,400 pounds, 2WD / 7,200 pounds, 4WD Max payload: 1,090 pounds, 2WD Max payload: 1,050 pounds, 4WD
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Re: Towing Capacity - Payload and GVWR

In my experience with two full-sized travel trailers and 4 different tow vehicles, towing right at the maximum weight isn't always fun, especially if you live in the mountains.

Don't forget that the specs for travel trailer weights may not include the weight of full propane tanks, some fresh water, or even accessories like the awning and air conditioner. Then add in your camping supplies, dishes, clothes to find out how much you will be pulling. As for me, I began looking at the max weight rating of the trailer, not the dry weight. It seems like tongue weight is usually the limiting factor for most RVs when looking at the capabilities of the Jeep.
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Re: Towing Capacity - Payload and GVWR

Thanks for all the input. I definitely am watching out for not only the "as delivered" tongue and trailer weight of the travel trailer but also looking at what it could be when full of water, sewage, and propane. I hear the tongue weight quickly becomes the limiting factor as the battery, propane, and water tanks are probably forward of the trailer axles.

Looking back at the FCA Issued spec sheet it says the following:

(b) Curb weight includes standard equipment and full quantities of fuel, lubricant and coolant.
(c) Payload is the maximum allowable weight of driver, passengers, cargo, and options, rounded to the nearest 10 lbs. (5kg).

Also, since I have 4WD the towing capacity is 7,200 lbs.

Sucks that this info is so hard to find. The Gross Combined Weight Rating (vehicle and trailer) is a specification that could maybe help this discussion, but I can't find it for the life of me.

Also, the GVWR (minus) curb weight being different than the payload is still not making sense in light of the definitions FCA provided above.

Any other thoughts?
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Re: Towing Capacity - Payload and GVWR

I could never find the GCWR ether. It's important. I would contact Chrysler Jeep Engineering and see if you get get an answer. But like someone said, be conservative and don't try to tow near the maximum. You have enough numbers to figure that out.
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Re: Towing Capacity - Payload and GVWR

Check out this thread....should help you out

Also, the Tow Package shows a Class IV hitch.....

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