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Re: Towing RV Trailer

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Yes that's a big difference in the manuals. I looked again in my 2014 diesel supplement but found nothing. Very odd. One version is an error?

Go to etrailer.com and look at sway bars. They also have lots of videos. I seriously doubt you need any weight distribution... No worry- 1700 lbs is very light! Sway bars help. Also be sure at least 10-15% weight is on the tongue of your trailer. You can use a bath scale to check it.


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2014 EcoDiesel towing a 19' Airstream Bambi (~4900 lbs wet); Equal-i-zer hitch and Tekonsha Prodigy RF wireless brake controller...

My mpg numbers are great, fully loaded with loaded RocketBox & Basket Case on the roof:
up to 16.7 in hard mountain driving & up to 18 freeway @ 65 mph. [Compared to 6.5 & 8.5 mpg with my 2000 JCG 4.7L gasser.]

Overall great performance, although I wish it had a better cooling system. This one is seriously taxed on long uphill Sierra grades @ > 95 degrees outside temp.
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Re: Towing RV Trailer

Thanks MPGTOW, the bath scale is a good idea since the tongue weight won't be too heavy. Maybe 240lbs after the propane tank and battery are installed. I will be interested in hearing from Jeep why the threshold for a WDH is 3500lbs on a 2014 ECODIESEL and 5000lbs on a 2015. Doesn't make sense unless they upgraded to tow package or strengthen the frame. I think the vehicles are identical. So I think someone has screwed up. If I hear anything back I will post. If someone out there knows the answer please let us know. Mike
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2014 EcoDiesel towing a 19' Airstream Bambi (~4900 lbs wet); Equal-i-zer hitch and Tekonsha Prodigy RF wireless brake controller...

My mpg numbers are great, fully loaded with loaded RocketBox & Basket Case on the roof:
up to 16.7 in hard mountain driving & up to 18 freeway @ 65 mph. [Compared to 6.5 & 8.5 mpg with my 2000 JCG 4.7L gasser.]

Overall great performance, although I wish it had a better cooling system. This one is seriously taxed on long uphill Sierra grades @ > 95 degrees outside temp.
FYI- There was a thread running on dieseljeeps.com concerning the cooling system "issue" with trailer pulling in more taxing situations. Using paddle shifters and watching rpm seemed to solve the issue. Installing a scan tool also big help. Check it out.
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MpgTow/Rob. Do you know what RPM is the sweet spot for towing up the grades? Is it the max torque which is around 2000rpm or higher? I will look into that other link you mention to see if it sheds any light. Mike
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MpgTow/Rob. Do you know what RPM is the sweet spot for towing up the grades? Is it the max torque which is around 2000rpm or higher? I will look into that other link you mention to see if it sheds any light. Mike
Well read through the other website. It looks like using your paddle shifters to keep the RPM at about 2500RPM should do the trick to keep the coolant, oil and water temperature stabilized although at a little higher temperatue than normal. I'm assuming my lighter trailer won't be as much as an impact. I use to pull a 2000lb loaded tent trailer with my 99 Expedition. Never any temperatiure issues. Even climbing long grades in 100 deg weather. Seems silly that Jeep didn't add more cooling capacity for the tow package. Mike
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Route 66, thanks. When you say sway bar is it something attached to the hitch of your RPOD. Did you feel you needed sway control after towing the trailer, or did you just do it from the start. If you could send me a link so I can see what sway control looks like. My tear drop will weigh 1700lbs dry, pretty light. Loaded maybe 2200lbs. Mike
mbaessler, here is a good example of what the sway bar looks like:
Pro Series Friction Sway Control Kit - Economy - by Draw-Tite, Reese and Hidden Hitch Pro Series Weight Distribution 83660
I had the RV dealer throw this in with my R-Pod purchase. I used to tow the R-Pod with a Subaru Outback 3.6R and it definitely helped keep the trailer stable. I use it on the Jeep because I already own it, not sure if it is totally necessary but if I go to Wyoming, it is nice to have a little more stability with all the wind up there.
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ImageUploadedByJeepGarage1429887228.555452.jpg 22 foot, 3400 lbs empty, p2 controller, and basic weight distribution hitch and anti sway bars.


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Re: Towing RV Trailer

I tow a 2013 25' Airstream. Fully loaded the weight is 6700lbs. The Jeep pulls great. I get 17-14 mpg at 70/75. I use Reese dual cam hitch with WDH. I took it to the CAT scales and set the weight bars so that everything is balanced and the weight is equal on both axels. I had the same high temps. But it never overheated. It is worrysome though.


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Bigadventure,
Do you know what your tongue weight is?
How tall is the airstream?
Have you towed in mountains hills etc?
I just returned from a short trip of 200 miles and averaged 14 mpg exactly. Jeep not used other than for the tow on this trip. First time using the Hensley hitch


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We get a regular 14-17 MPG towing with our Lance 1685 at a steady 65mph and have seen 18-20 on a flat road and a calm day.

Note that the mileage will definitely depend upon any elevation changes plus tail, side or headwinds experienced during the trip!
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Do you know what your tongue weight is? No
I don't think this has a great deal to do with towing if you use WDH. I would not want to put to much weight on the axels and void the warranty.

My numbers are actually GVWR 7300. The front after WD 3060, rear 3380, & trailer 5540 total 11980. These were from the CAT scale. You cannot guess at the set up. The only way to know is weight it.

How tall is the airstream? 10' 6"

Have you towed in mountains hills etc? Yes Lower Rocky Mountains though AZ, NM & VA

I just returned from a short trip of 200 miles and averaged 14 mpg exactly. Jeep not used other than for the tow on this trip. First time using the Hensley hitch

Hensley are the best, but very expensive. Sometime RV dealers won't service a trailer with one attached. They make you remove them. You will never have sway with one.

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